It sucks to be American sometimes.....

TwoTankAmin · Unread post by **TwoTankAmin** » 2017-03-24, 00:33

It is pointless to comment. *sigh*

Congress Moves to Strike Internet Privacy Rules From Obama Era

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/technology/congress-moves-to-strike-internet-privacy-rules-from-obama-era.html?_r=0

Unread post by **Moonchild** » 2017-03-24, 01:43

I guess it just means that they can continue with business-as-usual.
And you know, with cheap VPS offers out there, if ISP data collection and snooping is a concern, you can pay $5/month for a VPS and set up your own private non-logging proxy/VPN

Probably less than what you'd pay a third party for the same, anyway

John connor · Unread post by **John connor** » 2017-03-24, 09:54

Where do you buy a VPS for $5?

I currently pay about $5 a month right now with VPN.AC. I pay every three months.

New Tobin Paradigm · Unread post by **New Tobin Paradigm** » 2017-03-24, 10:03

Is $7 alright? Cause https://afterburst.com/unmetered-ssd-vps drive a lot of Pale Moon servers...

John connor · Unread post by **John connor** » 2017-03-24, 11:28

That looks promising, but I run a porn site and their TOS say you can't host porn on their services. Please don't ask for the web address.

Moonraker · Unread post by **Moonraker** » 2017-03-24, 11:36

In otherwords your a pimp lol......

John connor · Unread post by **John connor** » 2017-03-24, 11:54

Not really.

I found TMZVPS for 20/month which looks reasonable. I pay 10/month now with four domains in a shared account, but I'd like to move to a VPS.

TwoTankAmin · Unread post by **TwoTankAmin** » 2017-03-24, 13:38

I wish I understood enough to use any of the ideas in this thread. But then this is what the powers that be want. A world full of people who have no clue blindly using cyberspace in ways that they may not like nor want and probably do not even know is going on.

People tolerate things online that they would never accept in the real world. Folks do not care their every move online can be watched and recorded. But if a team of people followed one around all day recording everything they did, there would be one heck of an outcry. Do this in cyberspace and the same individual could care less.

So, I find myself not doing the sort of things most Americans do. I refuse to use social media. I do not use a smart phone. I do not game (unless poker counts). I have never visited an app store etc. This may make me feel somewhat safer in terms of privacy. But the downside is my behavior makes me look criminal in the eyes of most authorities.

Officer: Give us your smart phone.
Me : I don't have one.
Officer: I do not believe you, where is your phone?
Me: *Hands over my flip phone.*

Officer: What is your FaceBook password?
Me. I don't have one, I never go to Facebook.
Officer: I don't believe you, give us your password.
Me: I am not on any social media. I can give you a list of the Tropical fish sites I regularly visit?

Officer: O.K. then give us your tablet or laptop or both.
Me. Sorry, I don't have those either.

Officer: Send for S.W.A.T. this guy is clearly dangerous...........

rabnbeinn · Unread post by **rabnbeinn** » 2017-03-24, 14:14

I was just reading this yesterday and was thinking 'welcome to what us in the UK are subjected to'.

I now constantly use a VPN, was originally only going to use it for torrenting, but there is no difference in speed so just leave it on for most of the time. And with servers closer to me than my ISPs' and servers all round the world it's a win win situation, ok it costs me a few £££s extra every 3 months but well worth it. No tracking, logging etc and most importantly NO CENSORSHIP of the net.

Andrew Gilbertson · Unread post by **Andrew Gilbertson** » 2017-03-25, 12:33

John connor wrote:Where do you buy a VPS for $5?

I currently pay about $5 a month right now with VPN.AC. I pay every three months.

That's the minimum price for a Digital Ocean droplet. It's not much of a VPS, and I haven't used their service or even read their TOS, so I don't know if they're any good, but that's the cheapest I've heard of.

Unread post by **Moonchild** » 2017-03-25, 13:10

TwoTankAmin wrote:Officer: Give us your smart phone.

My response would be: not without a court order.

Unread post by **Moonchild** » 2017-03-25, 13:19

Andrew Gilbertson wrote:That's the minimum price for a Digital Ocean droplet.

Small droplets also have limited transfer.

I'd rather pay $2 more and get actually unmetered connections. And double the ram, 4x the CPU, 3x the disk space (great if you're setting up a caching proxy to help with speed), guaranteed Gbit port and no bandwidth restrictions... You really can't beat Afterburst's prices for that.

John connor · Unread post by **John connor** » 2017-03-26, 10:07

TwoTankAmin wrote:Officer: Give us your smart phone.
Me : I don't have one.
Officer: I do not believe you, where is your phone?
Me: *Hands over my flip phone.*

Officer: What is your FaceBook password?
Me. I don't have one, I never go to Facebook.
Officer: I don't believe you, give us your password.
Me: I am not on any social media. I can give you a list of the Tropical fish sites I regularly visit?

Officer: O.K. then give us your tablet or laptop or both.
Me. Sorry, I don't have those either.

Officer: Send for S.W.A.T. this guy is clearly dangerous...........

I think you might be exaggerating a bit here.

snertev · Unread post by **snertev** » 2017-03-26, 15:02

rabnbeinn wrote:I was just reading this yesterday and was thinking 'welcome to what us in the UK are subjected to'.

I now constantly use a VPN, was originally only going to use it for torrenting, but there is no difference in speed so just leave it on for most of the time. And with servers closer to me than my ISPs' and servers all round the world it's a win win situation, ok it costs me a few £££s extra every 3 months but well worth it. No tracking, logging etc and most importantly NO CENSORSHIP of the net.

Or, at least, your VPN provider says so...

TwoTankAmin · Unread post by **TwoTankAmin** » 2017-03-31, 19:10

Moonchild wrote:
TwoTankAmin wrote:Officer: Give us your smart phone.
My response would be: not without a court order.

And then they would refuse to admit you to the country and put you back on a plane home or from whence you came. Unless you are a US citizen or green card holder, they can do exactly that. http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/03/30/how-to-safeguard-your-data-at-us-border.html

In my case they can simply confiscate my phone and I may not see it back for months. they can try and crack it and get at the data first if they want. In my case they can have my flip phone. I only use it to make voice calls and never use it to access the net. It is only turned on and used when I am away from home. There is nothing stored on it and it has no password. I do not use the cloud.

Unread post by **Moonchild** » 2017-04-01, 18:13

TwoTankAmin wrote:And then they would refuse to admit you to the country and put you back on a plane home or from whence you came.

Sure they can. And I wouldn't complain at that moment. But I would make a stink out of it in the media

After all, I don't know if most US citizens realize this or not, but the USA has been in a state of emergency for an incredibly long time, which gives many people in the government and authorities powers they should not have unless in a state of war. But they still wouldn't get my private electronic devices by asking for it.

Pallid Planetoid · Unread post by **Pallid Planetoid** » 2017-04-09, 17:22

Nowhere is everything "just right".

StefanGustamin · Unread post by **StefanGustamin** » 2017-04-24, 11:56

Until it starts affecting my day to day I'm just gonna let it ride and keep doing what I'm doing.

Unread post by **Moonchild** » 2017-04-24, 12:27

StefanGustamin wrote:Until it starts affecting my day to day I'm just gonna let it ride and keep doing what I'm doing.

This is the correct response to terrorist attacks -- the gov't could learn a thing or two from you

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