A Little Help Needed for a Linux Newbie

[ron_1]

I am about 99.5% "green" on Linux, so sorry if this is a dumb question.
On the wiki for installation here, it says:

Installation, uninstallation and upgrades are managed via the pminstaller installation tool. To use it, extract the pminstaller-*.tar.bz2 file and run the pminstaller.sh file.

My question is this: after running the pminstaller.sh file, is PM for Linux installed automatically? I'm reading the paragraphs that follow the quoted instructions and my head is spinning.

[jumba]

My question is this: after running the pminstaller.sh file, is PM for Linux installed automatically? I'm reading the paragraphs that follow the quoted instructions and my head is spinning.

Yes, pminstaller.sh is the tool to install/uninstall/upgrade PM automatically.

It is a shell script to automate executing of the installation commands that are described in the wiki under the "Other installation methods".

[Anonymous]

I'm not a fan of using the Terminal when installing third party programs outside of the Mint or SolydX repositories. Like you, following those instructions is like "trying to understand a foreign language".

Pale Moon in both Mint and SolydX is really not installed on my computers -- I chose to run Pale Moon from it's extracted tarball just like in the quote below from those instructions in the link you provided:

Other installation methods
It should be noted that it is not necessary to install Pale Moon to use it. It is distributed as an bzipped tarball which can be extracted anywhere and run by executing the "palemoon" file inside it.

Using the quoted method above makes me do un-necessary mouse clicks to launch Pale Moon since there is no desktop icon or panel launcher icon (on the taskbar) installed to launch Pale Moon. You can add the desktop icon and/or the panel launcher icon without the using the terminal, but it takes quite a few steps and mouse clicks to accomplish this. Once a new version of Pale Moon is released, you download the newest tarball first, delete the "palemoon" folder and extract the new one onto the desktop.

Below is the attachment showing the Mint Desktop, but I can't take a screen shot of the Desktop with the menu as it disappears when I try and take the screen shot. You can see both the Pale Moon launcher icon on the desktop and the taskbar, as well as the extracted folder of Pale Moon (palemoon). I don't have a menu entry under Menu>Internet, as I have with Firefox, since I didn't really install Pale Moon.

Midnight Sail1366.jpg

[ron_1]

Night Wing wrote:
In essence, Pale Moon in both Mint and SoydX is really not installed on both of my desktop towers computers.

But can you install add-ons (like NoScript & Adblock Edge) since Pale Moon isn't really installed?

BTW, that's a cool desktop image.

[access2godzilla]

@helloimustbegoing
Yes, as jumba said, it's a tool to install Pale Moon. Extract the pminstaller-*.tar.bz2 and double click on the pminstaller.sh file. That's all you need to do. Here's a video of it: http://youtu.be/2yzHBydyzgM . I did it through a local server and not the PM4Linux website because downloading 28MB archives only burns small holes in my pocket due to data caps, but it should give you an idea. Also, I did use the terminal (since I recorded it to find some bugs in the installer), but double clicking works as well.

Also, I would request you not to install via the method described by Night wing above. Yes, simple "extract and run" works, but installation tool is the preferred method unless there is some real reason why you cannot install it. For example, I can push distro specific fixes, when they arise, via the installation tool. If you don't use it, I'll have to write long articles about these things, and in the end everyone loses -- you'd think Linux is a poor OS and I'd get less downloads ("oh so complex to use").

Also, extensions and everything is installable in that mode. Similar to "Windows zip packed versions of Pale Moon", if that makes you feel better.

@Night wing
So you find extracting an archive and double clicking on a file to be similar to "trying to understand a foreign language"?
**speechless**

The command line are there for those who want to have more control over the installation. That doesn't mean that you have to use them, it's your discretion, but then again, please don't go on long rants on this subject. (BTW, I had to merge and shorten your posts. Please make your posts concise -- and I know you can do it.)

[Night Wing]

@Night wing
So you find extracting an archive and double clicking on a file to be similar to "trying to understand a foreign language"?
**speechless**

I don't find extracting a file from a tarball or double clicking on a file, "trying to understand a foreign language". I find the instructions, when using the Terminal, is the equivalent of trying to understand a foreign language.

As an example, remember the Terminal instructions you gave me to install the Firefox ESR versions in Mint? I still haven't figured what I'm doing wrong because using those Terminal instructions, I still haven't been able to install the ESR versions of Firefox into Mint. I keep getting "error, file not found, failed" etc, when using the Terminal.