Contributed builds for linux.

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Contributed builds for linux.

Post by Moonraker » 2021-02-03, 22:11

hi,
I am fully aware that 32bit linux builds have been discontinued and i fully undderstand the reasons why.Pale moon is my favourite browser and i have used it for many years and i am now at a dilemma as i only have a 32bit computer and i obviously cannot update to the latest version..are there any unofficial contributed builds anywhere which will run on puppy linux.?..

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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by Pentium4User » 2021-02-04, 05:29

You could install Debian, there exists a repository that still build packages for i386.
I don't know any repository for Puppy yet.
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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by micwoj92 » 2021-02-04, 07:15

Debian package MIGHT, but only MIGHT work without reinstalling. I will see if I can do/test something this week/weekend.

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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by Moonraker » 2021-02-04, 10:54

I have tried debian in the past and it was a nightmare,Could never get the sound working..thanks for the replies.
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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by micwoj92 » 2021-02-04, 11:07

Well, I mean according to your profile you use "Xenial puppy linux 32-bit." I have no idea how it works but I searched online and it seems ot be compatible with Ubuntu 16.04 you could ask Steve about using obs and maybe make 32 bit for ubuntu 16.04 yourself.

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Post by Moonraker » 2021-02-04, 11:35

Puppy runs entirely in ram.This laptop is getting on a bit now so puppy is perfect at the moment.Software is usually installed using Petfiles but .deb files can be used also and run from anywhere in the filesystem.
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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by micwoj92 » 2021-02-04, 11:45

Hmm, can't you update to "Ubuntu Bionic x86 32-bit BionicPup32 8.0"?
It is based on Ubuntu 18.04 and Steve builds i386 for ubuntu 18.04.

This is the option that takes lowest effort in my opinion.

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Post by Moonraker » 2021-02-04, 12:01

Thanks..I have tried bionicpup and it doesn't play well with this laptop..older puppies are more preferable.Like i said ubuntu repos can be used and .debfiles are not usually a problem.
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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-02-04, 12:04

Stop trying to use old and insecure hardware and software.
How far are you prepared to go? How much are you prepared to risk? How many people are you prepared to sacrifice for victory?
Are you willing to die friendless, alone, deserted by everyone? Because that's what may be required of you in the war that is to come.

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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by Moonraker » 2021-02-04, 12:14

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2021-02-04, 12:04
Stop trying to use old and insecure hardware and software.
Sometimes older hardware and software works better.
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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by moonbat » 2021-02-04, 12:30

Moonraker wrote:
2021-02-04, 12:14
Sometimes older hardware and software works better.
Not for anything to do on the internet. But if you want to be wide open to security exploits, it's your call.
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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by Moonraker » 2021-02-04, 12:49

moonbat wrote:
2021-02-04, 12:30
Moonraker wrote:
2021-02-04, 12:14
Sometimes older hardware and software works better.
Not for anything to do on the internet. But if you want to be wide open to security exploits, it's your call.
That is a rather close minded paranoid outlook but that of course is your perogative.I have never experienced an exploit while using my "older" hardware..so according to your logic newer hardware does not get exploited or is more immune..i think not.
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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by moonbat » 2021-02-04, 12:51

Moonraker wrote:
2021-02-04, 12:49
I have never experienced an exploit while using my "older" hardware..so according to your logic newer hardware does not get exploited or is more immune..i think not.
Good, now think about the software you're running instead of focusing on only one thing that I said.
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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by Moonraker » 2021-02-04, 13:01

The only caveat with using puppy linux is that the filesystem is always running as root.I run the browser using "spot" which is a restricted scenario.
Software does not need to be installed but can be run using sfs packages which can be loaded and unloaded at will.
best operating system i have ever used and for older hardware and computers it's a no brainer to use puppy. :thumbup:
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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-02-04, 13:02

Does anyone really take moonraker seriously?
How far are you prepared to go? How much are you prepared to risk? How many people are you prepared to sacrifice for victory?
Are you willing to die friendless, alone, deserted by everyone? Because that's what may be required of you in the war that is to come.

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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by Moonraker » 2021-02-04, 13:08

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2021-02-04, 13:02
Does anyone really take moonraker seriously?
Whether people take me seriously is irrelevant and i'm not trying to get brownie points here.There are a lot of people using older hardware and computers which run fine.Instead we live in a world where decisions in regard to computing are made for us whether we want them or not.

If the older stuff works then give me one reason why i shouldn't use it and before the exploit army comes with a vengeance then it may surprise you to know that "new" hardware gets exploited too so the newer vs older argument doesn't wash here.

I bet nobody even knows how many 32bit users are out there getting left in the dark because it is "assumed" falsely that people are not using it. :)
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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-02-04, 13:12

I wish you would go dark.
How far are you prepared to go? How much are you prepared to risk? How many people are you prepared to sacrifice for victory?
Are you willing to die friendless, alone, deserted by everyone? Because that's what may be required of you in the war that is to come.

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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by Moonraker » 2021-02-04, 13:20

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2021-02-04, 13:12
I wish you would go dark.
Sorry to disappoint but i don't do requests :lol: :lol: :lol:
I have been known to walk on the water though, :lol: :lol: :lol:

But on a more serious note my comment does have validity especially in nixland.
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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-02-04, 13:40

No it really doesn't.
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Re: Contributed builds for linux.

Post by Moonraker » 2021-02-04, 13:48

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2021-02-04, 13:40
No it really doesn't.
That is of course your opinion.However there is contention to that way of thinking in regard to other browser companies.
The chromium project plus mozilla do not share your viewpoint as they offer 32bit builds so it cannot be a serious point of contention because if that were true then they would in affect produce only 64bit builds for linux.of course that could be just to boost user figures so widening the spectrum would be sensible in that regard.

So the gist of my comment is thus..using older hardware or operating systems "cannot" be in itself wrong or bad as other browser companies do not share that point of view. :)
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