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Hide Title Bar

Unread postby Marcus » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 12:44

Hi.

Would it be possible to have an option to hide the Title Bar under Linux?
I'm using Hide Caption Title Bar Plus, which works but can be a little erratic.

Thanks.

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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby Lucio Chiappetti » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 13:00

What is that you call a title bar ? The red one in the attached screen dump ?
That is generated by the window manager, not by palemoon !
There are ways to hide the window manager decor, but that depends on the window manager you use (I may know a solution for fvwm :D)
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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby Marcus » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 13:53

Lucio Chiappetti wrote:What is that you call a title bar ? The red one in the attached screen dump ?
That is generated by the window manager, not by palemoon !

Firefox 61 has the option built in.

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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby Moonchild » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 14:05

We are not Firefox, Marcus. Don't expect UI options to be available for something that has literally no UI elements in common anymore.
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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby Marcus » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 14:09

That's too bad, I was expecting it'd be a simple implementation.

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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby billmcct » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 15:20

Marcus wrote:Hi.

Would it be possible to have an option to hide the Title Bar under Linux?
I'm using Hide Caption Title Bar Plus, which works but can be a little erratic.

Thanks.


Which version are you using?

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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby Marcus » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 17:09

Version 2.8.6.1
I tried newer versions but found them bloated and unstable.

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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby Thehandyman1957 » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 17:18

I'm using "Hide Caption Titlebar Plus 2.8.7rc" on W764 and it seems to work
just as it should. No issues here. Not sure about Linux stuff as they have such
a different U.I. system. :think:
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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby billmcct » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 18:20

I am also using 2.8.7rc and it works well,
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I can't say for linux but it is no longer downloadable so here it is. Give it a try.
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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby CraigPD » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 19:02

I third the motion for HCTP 2.8.7rc. Works reliably in Mint, KDEneon and Xubuntu on all available DEs the past two years. I'm curious what changed to bloat the latest version to 1M+ but not enough to test install.

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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby tooshorttoolong » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 19:16

You can try using the undecorate_window() function of devilspie2, or see if your window manager has such an option (with OpenBox I can just right-click on the title bar and click on "Un/decorate").

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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby Marcus » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 19:57

billmcct wrote:I am also using 2.8.7rc and it works well

Trying it, seams to work fine.

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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby fillerup » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 23:52

guys, the latest version of Hide Caption Titlebar Plus (4.1.0) was released yesterday and works perfectly with Pale Moon!!

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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby Thehandyman1957 » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 00:50

fillerup wrote:guys, the latest version of Hide Caption Titlebar Plus (4.1.0) was released yesterday and works perfectly with Pale Moon!!


I took a look! :shock: Way too much for me. :problem:

I like the simplicity of the older version and it just works for what I want. :thumbup:
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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby fillerup » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 01:43

the new version has much more modern/better looking min/max/close buttons than the 2.x.x versions

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compared to

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and there have been other compatibility and performance fixes since the 2.8.7.rc which is almost 4 years old already

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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby Thehandyman1957 » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 03:10

But but, I like my old fashioned looking buttons..... :mrgreen:
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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby fillerup » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 04:11

Thehandyman1957 wrote:Well except that Rich3w guy that is. :crazy: :lol:

can't argue with that ;)

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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby Night Wing » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 07:44

Thehandyman1957 wrote:But but, I like my old fashioned looking buttons..... :mrgreen:


I also like the old fashioned looking buttons. I am not a fan of the modern flat look. Speaking just for myself, I find the modern flat look.........butt ugly.

Off-topic:
In linux Mint 18.3, the default look was the old fashioned Mint-X theme. In linux Mint 19, the default look is the modern flat Mint-Y theme. Since I don't like the modern flat looking theme in Mint 19, I changed the modern Mint-Y theme back to the old fashioned look of Mint-X.
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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby fillerup » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 11:39

Night Wing wrote:I also like the old fashioned looking buttons. I am not a fan of the modern flat look. Speaking just for myself, I find the modern flat look.........butt ugly.

understandable, but the old icons are also very blurry on HiDPI displays, and the background colors don't quite do it for me

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Re: Hide Title Bar

Unread postby Night Wing » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 12:39

fillerup wrote:
Night Wing wrote:I also like the old fashioned looking buttons. I am not a fan of the modern flat look. Speaking just for myself, I find the modern flat look.........butt ugly.

understandable, but the old icons are also very blurry on HiDPI displays, and the background colors don't quite do it for me


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