Streaming movie won't play

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Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby greyowl » Fri, 02 Feb 2018, 01:51

I am trying to get a movie to stream from the hoopla website. The little processing wheel turns but it never starts to play.

I tried it on Firefox 52 ESR and I got a message that DRM needs to be enabled. So I enabled DRM, then it said that it was downloading some necessary files for video. Then it played the movie.

On the basis of the above information, is there any idea on how I could get PM to play the movies on hoopla?

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby Nigaikaze » Fri, 02 Feb 2018, 03:46

greyowl wrote:On the basis of the above information, is there any idea on how I could get PM to play the movies on hoopla?

Probably not, because Pale Moon does not include/support DRM.

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby bgstack15 » Sat, 03 Feb 2018, 04:05

Pardon my ignorance, but does the no-DRM condition mean that Palemoon will not work with Netflix?

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby rabnbeinn » Sat, 03 Feb 2018, 11:37

Netflix plays just fine in Pale Moon

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby stevepusser » Sat, 03 Feb 2018, 19:45

How is that possible if Pale Moon does not support DRM on Linux?

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby rabnbeinn » Sat, 03 Feb 2018, 19:58

Apologies, failed to notice your question was in the Linux section. Sorry bout that.

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby gracious1 » Mon, 05 Feb 2018, 10:18

stevepusser wrote:How is that possible if Pale Moon does not support DRM on Linux?

rabnbeinn wrote:…failed to notice your question was in the Linux section.

Wait... Pale Moon supports DRM on Windows? :wtf:
I thought PM was never going to support DRM ??
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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby rabnbeinn » Mon, 05 Feb 2018, 10:50

That is not what I said Gracious.

I was implying that Netflix will play in Pale Moon on a Windows machine. I have no idea if Netflix will or won't play on a Linux machine.

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby stevepusser » Mon, 05 Feb 2018, 21:16

Since Netflix video is always DRM-protected, it follows from your statement that if it plays in Windows, DRM is somehow working in Pale Moon for Windows. I don't know if it's falling back to some sort of Silverlight or Flash DRM, or if it indeed is using widevine somehow for the HTML playback, but this seems odd.

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby New Tobin Paradigm » Mon, 05 Feb 2018, 22:02

Pale Moon has no eme in the Tycho codebase so if it works it must be using silverlight still..

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby greyowl » Thu, 05 Apr 2018, 20:05

I am still wanting to figure out a way to play movies from hoopla.com with PM.
Is there any plugin or extension that could make it work?

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby badnick » Fri, 06 Apr 2018, 18:40

This link "hoopla.com" does not exist!
Maybe "https://www.hoopladigital.com/"
Or: "https://hoopla.la/"

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby greyowl » Fri, 06 Apr 2018, 19:19

Sorry for the confusion.
It is www.hoopladigital.com where I want to stream movies. It is a service through the library system for the US and Canada.
When I try to stream a movie the little progress wheel just keeps turning but the movie doesn't start.
As mentioned, the movies stream fine with Firefox.
Do you have any ideas on how to get this to work?

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby stevepusser » Mon, 09 Apr 2018, 18:41

I guess that they don't have any support you could ask, or don't have a clue about anything Linux, as is so sadly often the case?

What you describe for Firefox matches what it does when downloading the widevine DRM plugin files, which is how they work around not including those closed plugins with the program, but Pale Moon does not support the widevine plugins, AFAIK. You could try copying them over to the PM plugin folder just to see what happens, though.
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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby New Tobin Paradigm » Tue, 10 Apr 2018, 01:00

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:Pale Moon has no eme in the Tycho codebase so if it works it must be using silverlight still..

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby greyowl » Wed, 11 Apr 2018, 01:52

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
New Tobin Paradigm wrote:Pale Moon has no eme in the Tycho codebase so if it works it must be using silverlight still..


Is it possible to put eme in the tycho codebase so that PM could run videos?

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby Walter Dnes » Wed, 11 Apr 2018, 02:25

greyowl wrote:Is it possible to put eme in the tycho codebase so that PM could run videos?

I don't think it's going to happen. According to the "roadmap" https://www.palemoon.org/roadmap.shtml
The following specific media streaming feature(s) is/are not on Pale Moon's roadmap:
* In-browser DRM (EME)
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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby trava90 » Wed, 11 Apr 2018, 11:45

EME is not and will not be part of Pale Moon. If you must have EME you will have to use another browser such as Basilisk or others.

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Re: Streaming movie won't play

Unread postby greyowl » Wed, 11 Apr 2018, 11:53

Thanks for the information and clarification.


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