Ubuntu 14.04, 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, Debian 7, 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby stevepusser » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:44 pm

JustOff wrote:
stevepusser wrote:I'm reverting the repo version to 27.3.0 right now.

It seems to me that palemoon is now completely gone from your repo :wtf:

UPD: And now it is back again 8-)


The instructions disappear while new packages are building and publishing, but the previous packages are still in the repo until the new ones replace them. In this case, it took about an hour for them all to finish, though some only took about half that time.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby JustOff » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:21 pm

Off-topic:
stevepusser wrote:The instructions disappear while new packages are building and publishing, but the previous packages are still in the repo until the new ones replace them.

It's not so important now, but they definitely weren't there:

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$ sudo apt-get update
[..]
Reading package lists... Done
 
$ sudo apt-get install palemoon
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree     
Reading state information... Done
Package palemoon is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
 
E: Package 'palemoon' has no installation candidate
I tried to install it several times within 10-15 minutes before complaining.
Here are the add-ons I made in a spare time. That was fun!

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby balloon » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:51 am

stevepusser wrote:Edit: I have noticed that the Stretch-based Sparky Linux switched their build to gcc-4.9, too. I guess it worked because at that time, Debian had not removed gcc-4.9 from the release, but if they are going to build the next release to their repo, they are going to have to build gcc-4.9 themselves and build against it, the same as I had to do with the Stretch OBS repo.

Pale Moon in their repo--I have surfed around it and can't find any gcc-4.9 yet. http://sparkylinux.org/repo/pool/main/p/palemoon/


I often do contacts with Sparky developers. I will tell this to him.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby balloon » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:01 am

stevepusser wrote:The reverted packages are building--users can downgrade from 27.4.0 by removing palemoon and then reinstalling it after the packages are finished, or force the version with something on the command line like

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sudo aptitude install palemoon=palemoon_27.3.0~repack-1


The OBS usually finishes the whole set of builds within an hour, but that varies depending on how many users are putting demands on it.

Oops! Ubuntu normally does not use aptitude. It will be apt command:

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sudo apt install palemoon=27.3.0~repack-1

and Debian GNU/Linux etc may not use sudo. Use su instead. (For beginners ;) )

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby balloon » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:39 am

There is a possibility that the influence is great. I posted Japanese information:
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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby stevepusser » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:25 pm

I see that 27.4.0 is now officially released, so I've downloaded the new source archive and am having the OBS build from that.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby zorzi » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:24 am

Thanks for your build work Steve.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby s3boun3t » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:43 am

wow, thanks for update steve

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby robert-e » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:07 pm

Steve,
I enabled your repo, and attempted to install ver 24 (ubuntu 14.04), however synaptic wanted to remove a whole schack of stuff including vlc. I do recall this being the case with version 23. That did not happen with the kovacsoltvideo repo: It installed only palemoon.

"deb http://kovacsoltvideo.hu/moonchildproductions/ ./"

That said, I see vers 24 is not yet at kovacsoltvideo.hu. I am wondering why your compiles dependencies are such that cause these removals? Just curious.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby stevepusser » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:07 pm

It does not happen on an unmodified Ubuntu 14.04. I have to suspect due to PM's dependency on libav-tools or ffmpeg, you have somehow changed your base multimedia (libav*) libraries from the regular versions, and that's what causing the issues with vlc, since it also (usually) depends on them.

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apt-cache policy vlc ffmpeg libav-tools


could provide some insight to those on your system.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby stevepusser » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:09 pm

I'm also interested in that new repo--I've never heard of it before. Are they just rebuilding from my debianized source files?

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby trava90 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:14 pm

Steve, the kovacsolt repo simply contains .deb repacks of the tarballs on linux.palemoon.org.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby robert-e » Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:22 am

Here you go, Steve:
rob-HP rob # apt-cache policy vlc ffmpeg libav-tools
vlc:
Installed: 2.2.5.1~ppa
Candidate: 2.2.5.1~ppa
Version table:
*** 2.2.5.1~ppa 0
500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mc3man/trusty-media/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.3 0
700 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/universe amd64 Packages
700 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/universe amd64 Packages
2.1.2-2build2 0
700 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
ffmpeg:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 7:3.3.1~trusty
Version table:
7:3.3.1~trusty 0
500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mc3man/trusty-media/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
libav-tools:
Installed: 6:9.20-0ubuntu0.14.04.1
Candidate: 6:9.20-0ubuntu0.14.04.1
Version table:
6:9.20-0ubuntu0.14.04.2+fdkaac 0
500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mc3man/trusty-media/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
*** 6:9.20-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 0
700 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/universe amd64 Packages
700 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/universe amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
6:9.11-2ubuntu2 0
700 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages

Not a problem...just to satisfy my curiousity bump...lol; although a 64 bit version would be welcome.
Keep up your good work.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby gracious1 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:26 pm

There's something else going on that I suspect is maybe being misread.

What exactly is your output when you type sudo apt-get install palemoon ?
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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby robert-e » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:40 pm

For those interested, as am I;

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apt-get install palemoon
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  libfdk-aac0
The following is with Steve's repo enabled and the .hu repo disabled in sources.list

Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  palemoon:i386
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  palemoon
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 33 not upgraded.
Need to get 35.7 MB of archives.
After this operation, 1,519 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.

apt-get upgrade palemoon
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  libfdk-aac0
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  palemoon:i386
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  palemoon
The following packages have been kept back:
  update-notifier-common
The following packages will be upgraded:  NOTE..THESE PACKAGES ARE LOCKED IN SYNAPTIC
  base-files debootstrap firefox firefox-locale-en gir1.2-gudev-1.0
  init-system-helpers libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6:i386 libc6-dbg libc6-dev
  libc6-i386 libgudev-1.0-0 libgudev-1.0-0:i386 libpam-systemd
  libsystemd-daemon0:i386 libsystemd-login0 libudev1 libudev1:i386
  linux-libc-dev login lsb-base lsb-release passwd python3-update-manager
  systemd-services:i386 thunderbird thunderbird-gnome-support
  thunderbird-locale-en thunderbird-locale-en-us udev unattended-upgrades
32 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 145 MB of archives.
After this operation, 25.6 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]



Odd there is not mention of removing vlc, and other media packages, as opposed to using synaptic which does. Not complaining, nor looking for help...just trying to
learn. That said, I will just use apt to update pale moon using Steve's repo, since I do know more about Steve than the OP's repo.

Sorry for any noise.
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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby stevepusser » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:49 pm

Hmmm--so you had palemoon:i386 from the Hungarian repo on your 64-bit system. That's OK, you had the i386 libraries installed to support it. I also don't think the apt command line tools respect any pinning that's done in Synaptic. I've also noticed that sometimes Synaptic wants to remove packages that the command line tools don't have any problem leaving installed--go figure.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby robert-e » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:25 pm

Yes, I have multiarch installed/enabled; and I too have noticed that synaptic's odd behavior before. I was never able to figure out the why. I imagine if I looked at the packaging script that might shed some light.
OTOH, I did remove palemoon.i386 and installed (your build) palemoon, without precipatating a dependency hell. I have to be very carefull with any installations...I have an older nvidia chipset, so newer mesa/kernels
updates are always subject to carefull scrutiny. I also need to keep pulse audio off as it produces increased error rates with ham radio sound card decoding; and last but not least, systemd api changes/bugs seem rampant these
days. I have learned the hard way to be very conservative.

Again, thank you for all your work. I for one really appreciate it.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby gracious1 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:15 pm

Regarding this stuff:

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The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  libfdk-aac0
The following is with Steve's repo enabled and the .hu repo disabled in sources.list
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it.

Follow those instructions above to remove that unneeded package.

Regarding this:

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The following packages have been kept back:
  update-notifier-common
...
32 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.


Do

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sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

or

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sudo apt-get install update-notifier-common

in order to get that upgrade (unless for some reason you don't want it).

Also, if ever there are problems with dependencies, do

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sudo apt-get install -f


I am glad you are switching to apt. I find I have more success and fewer issues with the good old command-line interface than with some of the GUI apps (at least with Ubuntu).
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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby pavroo » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:55 pm

stevepusser wrote:
Edit: I have noticed that the Stretch-based Sparky Linux switched their build to gcc-4.9, too. I guess it worked because at that time, Debian had not removed gcc-4.9 from the release, but if they are going to build the next release to their repo, they are going to have to build gcc-4.9 themselves and build against it, the same as I had to do with the Stretch OBS repo.

Pale Moon in their repo--I have surfed around it and can't find any gcc-4.9 yet. http://sparkylinux.org/repo/pool/main/p/palemoon/

I build PaleMoon on Jessie with gcc 4.9, which works perfect.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.0.4, 15.10, 15.04, 14.04, Debian 8 Pale Moon repositories

Postby stevepusser » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:56 pm

Ahhh, I see; we also found that the Jessie builds have no problem on Stretch. I just wanted a Stretch repo on the OBS so users couldn't get nervous about adding a Jessie repo to Stretch, so had to add a gcc-4.9 to that repo.


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