FYI: Pale Moon beta (Goanna 3) *still* works with Conkeror

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FYI: Pale Moon beta (Goanna 3) *still* works with Conkeror

Unread post by emacsomancer » 2015-11-06, 22:18

See my previous post: viewtopic.php?t=8342 on using Conkeror with Pale Moon.

Why this is relevant is that as Firefox moves away from the XUL framework, Conkeror ( http://www.conkeror.org ), a keyboard-centric browser, will no longer have a base to function on. I just tested out the latest beta of Pale Moon last night, and Conkeror stills works, though one does need to alter /usr/share/conkeror/application.ini to add in lines for Goanna, thus:

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[App]
Vendor=conkeror.mozdev.org
Name=conkeror
ID={a79fe89b-6662-4ff4-8e88-09950ad4dfde}
Version=1.0pre1
BuildID=git

[Gecko]
MinVersion=1.9.1
MaxVersion=*

[Goanna]
MinVersion=1.9.1
MaxVersion=9.9.9

[XRE]
EnableExtensionManager=1
(the added lines are the [Goanna] section)

Just FYI.

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Re: FYI: Pale Moon beta (Goanna 3) *still* works with Conkeror

Unread post by purgatori » 2016-05-07, 23:33

Can anyone provide some guidance on how to achieve the same under Windows?


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Re: FYI: Pale Moon beta (Goanna 3) *still* works with Conkeror

Unread post by sindi » 2017-01-18, 21:51

I added the three Goanna lines to conkeror's application.ini (2010 precompiled Conkeror).
palemoon --app /usr/share/conkeror/application.ini "$@"

I see palemoon (27) but no signs of Conkeror.

What exactly is supposed to happen and what am I probably missing?

Both browsers work properly on my Puppy Linux Lucid 5.2.8.7 OS (Dec 28 2016).
Conkeror also works on a Pentium III (SSE) with the same OS.

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Re: FYI: Pale Moon beta (Goanna 3) *still* works with Conkeror

Unread post by Moonchild » 2017-01-18, 22:48

I just cloned the conkeror git repo, master branch.
Launched palemoon.exe from the Pale Moon application folder with the --app command-line, and up came conkeror. No issues.

Linux may make things more difficult, but at least on Windows it works just fine.
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Re: FYI: Pale Moon beta (Goanna 3) *still* works with Conkeror

Unread post by sindi » 2017-01-26, 16:53

Walter Dnes very kindly compiled conkeror (latest) using CentOS 2.6 so it would work with
Puppy Linuxes that use glibc 2.11 and older libstdc++.

I can run conkeror with his package using both Firefox (17 or 45) and Pale Moon 27
(but not 26.5 for Atom or Seamonkey). Conkeror loads much faster but uses similar CPU.
Under 2MB compiled.

Walter added the goanna lines (MinVersion 2.0 not 1.9) to application.ini

There are a few messages about things missing when I load conkeror but it runs and
displays ebay as expected.


XP complained about goanna, and conkeror would not work with Pale Moon (latest SSE version)
even after I added the three lines (MinVersion 1.9). Conkeror works with MicroXP (2008).
MicroXP is fast with little RAM but has no wifi support.

360p youtube video on 2008 Atom netbook:

Non-Atom Pale Moon 27 uses 141% cpu with html5.

Conkeror/Pale Moon 27 uses 145% cpu with html5.


Atom Pale Moon 26.5 uses 113% cpu with html5, and only 57% with Flash 11.2.
(Conkeror won't work with this Pale Moon).


Oddly, Alt-F1 is interpreted at youtube as youtube fullscreen not File. Alt-E Edit is okay.
On two computers.


Conkeror does not reduce memory and cpu usage but it does add keyboard navigation to Pale
Moon 27. (26.5 has Pentadactyl). The keyboard navigation is inadequate at Youtube - many
links are not numbered.

Smtube uses far less cpu and ram to play videos.

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Re: FYI: Pale Moon beta (Goanna 3) *still* works with Conkeror

Unread post by Walter Dnes » 2017-01-27, 03:02

sindi wrote:Walter Dnes very kindly compiled conkeror (latest) using CentOS 2.6 so it would work with
Puppy Linuxes that use glibc 2.11 and older libstdc++.
That should read CentOS 6.5. I'll confess that I don't really understand conkeror or how it works. I'm glad that it works for you. I did not change the Minversion value in application ini. The value may be set higher by default because this is the latest version of conkeror. I downloaded the latest source code a few days ago for compiling.
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