Pale Moon 28/29 localization

The l10n of Pale Moon. Rawr.
User avatar
Alex654
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 5
Joined: 2019-04-23, 23:58

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by Alex654 » 2020-03-15, 18:17

Hello guys, may I ask a question. It seems that the translations (at least the Russian one) miss some strings from the Tools -> Web Developer submenu. I have only 2 items instead of 10-12 when I turn on the Russian language pack. Can I help improving the translation? How can I do this?

User avatar
JustOff
Localization Coordinator
Localization Coordinator
Posts: 1994
Joined: 2015-09-03, 19:47
Location: UA
Contact:

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by JustOff » 2020-03-15, 18:33

Alex654 wrote:
2020-03-15, 18:17
Hello guys, may I ask a question. It seems that the translations (at least the Russian one) miss some strings from the Tools -> Web Developer submenu. I have only 2 items instead of 10-12 when I turn on the Russian language pack. Can I help improving the translation? How can I do this?
I can't confirm that. Could you please open a separate topic about your issue here or there and provide more details about your environment, screenshots and messages from the error console.
Here are the add-ons I made in a spare time. That was fun!

User avatar
Alex654
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 5
Joined: 2019-04-23, 23:58

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by Alex654 » 2020-03-18, 00:11

I forgot to tell that I am using New Moon for Windows XP (version 28.8.0a1), which is a fork and officially is not supported. Is it allowed to open issues here about the translations in this case? The Russian translation pack info page says it is compatible with Pale Moon 28.8.0a1 to 28.8.*, so I guess it should work OK with 28.8.0a1.

User avatar
New Tobin Paradigm
Knows the dark side
Knows the dark side
Posts: 7574
Joined: 2012-10-09, 19:37
Location: Just beyond the Lament Configuration

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-03-18, 00:31

No.
Image
- Welcome to the worst nightmare of all... reality! -

User avatar
Moonchild
Pale Moon guru
Pale Moon guru
Posts: 27354
Joined: 2011-08-28, 17:27
Location: 58°2'16"N 14°58'31"E
Contact:

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by Moonchild » 2020-03-18, 01:00

Alex654 wrote:
2020-03-18, 00:11
Is it allowed to open issues here about the translations in this case?
Our translations and language packs only target (and only support) our official builds.
If you run into issues on unsupported third party builds of the browser then that's too bad, but we won't accept reports for it.
"There will be times when the position you advocate, no matter how well framed and supported, will not be accepted by the public simply because you are who you are." -- Merrill Rose
Image

User avatar
Alex654
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 5
Joined: 2019-04-23, 23:58

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by Alex654 » 2020-03-19, 20:34

Checked in official Pale Moon 28.8.4, and the issue is not reproducable. I will submit a bug to author of New Moon then, thanks.

User avatar
JustOff
Localization Coordinator
Localization Coordinator
Posts: 1994
Joined: 2015-09-03, 19:47
Location: UA
Contact:

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by JustOff » 2020-03-20, 21:30

Here is the third beta build that is targeted to the upcoming Pale Moon 29. Based on it, the language packs for Pale Moon 28 will also be updated in a few days, so I ask all contributors to complete the translation as soon as possible. This primarily concerns the Czech, Slovak and Spanish (Argentina) language packs.
2020-03-20_23-14-55.png
Thanks all for feedback and contributions, new participants are always welcomed!
Here are the add-ons I made in a spare time. That was fun!

pietb
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 3
Joined: 2018-03-12, 14:01

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by pietb » 2020-06-04, 20:59

Latest/current version is 28.9.3. Currently available language packs are all for 28.10 and therefore incompatible with 28.9.3. How/where to get langpacks for 28.9.3? Or is PM 28.10 release around the corner?

User avatar
New Tobin Paradigm
Knows the dark side
Knows the dark side
Posts: 7574
Joined: 2012-10-09, 19:37
Location: Just beyond the Lament Configuration

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-06-04, 21:11

Yes, language packs for new versions get released ahead a time so the first launch of a new version will pick them up.

All language packs ARE treated like other add-ons on the Add-ons Site so they do have previous versions all the way back to when they were shifted to the Add-ons Site.
Image
- Welcome to the worst nightmare of all... reality! -

pietb
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 3
Joined: 2018-03-12, 14:01

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by pietb » 2020-06-05, 08:11

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2020-06-04, 21:11
All language packs ARE treated like other add-ons on the Add-ons Site so they do have previous versions all the way back to when they were shifted to the Add-ons Site.
Thanks. That saved the digital life of my wife. ;-)

User avatar
JustOff
Localization Coordinator
Localization Coordinator
Posts: 1994
Joined: 2015-09-03, 19:47
Location: UA
Contact:

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by JustOff » 2020-07-30, 16:44

Here is the next beta build that is targeted to the long awaited Pale Moon 29. Please note that several strings were added since the latest release, so the translations require updates. Those translators who have already done this, please check the results using the unstable releases.

2020-07-30_19-32-23.png
:!: Based on the beta build above, the language packs for Pale Moon 28 will also be updated in a few days, so I ask all contributors to complete the translation as soon as possible. This primarily concerns the Chinese Simplified, Czech, Dutch, Polish, Slovak, Spanish (Argentina) and Turkish language packs.

Thanks all for feedback and contributions, new participants are always welcomed!
Here are the add-ons I made in a spare time. That was fun!

User avatar
Moonchild
Pale Moon guru
Pale Moon guru
Posts: 27354
Joined: 2011-08-28, 17:27
Location: 58°2'16"N 14°58'31"E
Contact:

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by Moonchild » 2020-07-30, 18:30

Dutch is done.
"There will be times when the position you advocate, no matter how well framed and supported, will not be accepted by the public simply because you are who you are." -- Merrill Rose
Image

User avatar
JustOff
Localization Coordinator
Localization Coordinator
Posts: 1994
Joined: 2015-09-03, 19:47
Location: UA
Contact:

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by JustOff » 2020-07-30, 18:34

Perfect, thank you! Let's hope other translators are as quick as Dutch and Polish 8-)
Here are the add-ons I made in a spare time. That was fun!

User avatar
JustOff
Localization Coordinator
Localization Coordinator
Posts: 1994
Joined: 2015-09-03, 19:47
Location: UA
Contact:

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by JustOff » 2020-08-01, 15:11

:!: Dear translators, I would like to draw your attention once again that direct use of results obtained from automatic translation engines such as Google Translate or similar is unacceptable. You can use machine translation as a guide when working on a translation into a language you speak, but in no other way. It's better to have language packs with untranslated strings than those that are not translated properly.
Here are the add-ons I made in a spare time. That was fun!

User avatar
loxodont
Astronaut
Astronaut
Posts: 617
Joined: 2014-07-26, 23:03
Location: Mare Serenitatis

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by loxodont » 2020-08-04, 07:38

JustOff wrote:
2020-08-01, 15:11
:!: Dear translators, I would like to draw your attention once again that direct use of results obtained from automatic translation engines such as Google Translate or similar is unacceptable. ...
thx for the information and my excuses (here, again) for touching other translations - I just did not not know the "native-speakers only" rule.
Off-topic:
For the record, my translations were in the first line based on what others already had translated for the language packs, which means by several comparisons of confirmed translations, on a second level compared to the suggestions on crowdin (which I already knew, can't be trusted) and in the two unclear cases of "Enable" in Chinese and Hardverko/u in Romanian(?) PM translations I only looked up in DeepL and Google Translate on a 3rd level check, just to see what they would give me (which ended in no applicable results anyway), so nothing from those machines has made it to the suggestions. Sorry for unnecessarily wasting time - I promise, it will not happen again. :oops:

User avatar
Moonchild
Pale Moon guru
Pale Moon guru
Posts: 27354
Joined: 2011-08-28, 17:27
Location: 58°2'16"N 14°58'31"E
Contact:

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by Moonchild » 2020-08-04, 13:53

loxodont wrote:
2020-08-04, 07:38
I just did not not know the "native-speakers only" rule.
It's not -as- strict as having to be a native speaker per se, but you have to be near-native level to catch errors caused by machine translations if they aren't blatant, so if your level is beginner or intermediate in a certain language, please don't try to translate into that language with or without machine help.
The same reason I generally won't touch Swedish because although I'm pretty OK at conversational swedish and reading written Swedish well enough to use it as a source language, I'm in no position to use it as a target language.
"There will be times when the position you advocate, no matter how well framed and supported, will not be accepted by the public simply because you are who you are." -- Merrill Rose
Image

User avatar
loxodont
Astronaut
Astronaut
Posts: 617
Joined: 2014-07-26, 23:03
Location: Mare Serenitatis

Re: Pale Moon 28/29 localization

Post by loxodont » 2020-08-04, 18:56

I'm really OK with that. The more I looked into other languages and their still untranslated strings, I soon got that feeling myself that another hell would open if I continue, so I wouldn't have done much more than trying to update at least the latest (WASM) changes anyway. I'm rather thankful JustOff confirmed me better not to follow my "activism" impulse. - Dogs are happy about it, too. :D (and great thanks for todays 28.12 update,yay...)

Post Reply