Pale Moon 27 localization

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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby dark_moon » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:04 pm

On your github you write german is 99% Verified but on crowdin its 100%
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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby JustOff » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:11 pm

dark_moon wrote:On your github you write german is 99% Verified but on crowdin its 100%

Over time everything changes :coffee:
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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby loxodont » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:05 pm

dark_moon wrote:On your github you write german is 99% Verified but on crowdin its 100%


There seem to be delays sometimes. Few weeks back I got a crowdin email note about new string changes but on their site everything was on 100%.

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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby dark_moon » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:03 pm

loxodont wrote:There seem to be delays sometimes. Few weeks back I got a crowdin email note about new string changes but on their site everything was on 100%.

Yeah, i realize that too
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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby Jääskis » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:18 pm

Uutena täällä, heipat kaikille!
Mikä tilanne suomennoksessa? Tarvitaanko kääntäjää?

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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby JustOff » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:05 pm

Hi Jääskis!

We have no dedicated Finnish localization team at the moment, last year only two person made an occasional contribution to the translation into Finnish and no one contacted me directly. You can register at CrowdIn and view all the progress here - https://crowdin.com/project/pale-moon/fi/activity. You are welcome to join the translation, basic instructions are in the first post. Feel free to ask any questions if necessary.
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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby JustOff » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:07 pm

Here is the first beta build that is targeted to Pale Moon 27.7.* (also compatible with 27.0.0 and later). There were no new strings added since the last release yet.

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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby Jääskis » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:28 pm

Now I have translated few lines. I takes couple of hours. What is total number of lines? When there is now 81% ready in Finnish I would calculate, how long this will take.

By the way I see Swedish is all ready translated but not voted. I ought to understand some Swedish. Any help if I vote Swedish lines?

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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby JustOff » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:41 pm

Jääskis wrote:Now I have translated few lines. I takes couple of hours. What is total number of lines? When there is now 81% ready in Finnish I would calculate, how long this will take.

Currently Finnish has 1571 strings / 7097 words untranslated (total 8920/39276).

By the way I see Swedish is all ready translated but not voted. I ought to understand some Swedish. Any help if I vote Swedish lines?

Votes are useful only if there are conflicting translations.
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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby Jääskis » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:49 pm

OK, it takes about 100 hours translate rest of Finnish lines. Not impossible, but it may be ready not before new year. If there is new major version (28) coming soon are there possibility that some of this new translations need new handling before they are in use for users? Otherway: is it better wait and translate only for new major version?

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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby JustOff » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:08 pm

Jääskis wrote:OK, it takes about 100 hours translate rest of Finnish lines. Not impossible, but it may be ready not before new year.

I suggest you to use Finnish language pack for Firefox as a reference.

If there is new major version (28) coming soon are there possibility that some of this new translations need new handling before they are in use for users? Otherway: is it better wait and translate only for new major version?

As far as I know there are no such plans, but even in this case new language packs are unlikely to be created again from scratch, but migrated from existing ones.
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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby JustOff » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:52 pm

Here is the next beta build that is targeted to Pale Moon 27.7.* (also compatible with 27.0.0 and later).

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:idea: Please note that new strings were added to the project after 27.6, so all locales should be updated.

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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby _ntnn » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:18 pm

Thank you for taking care of this.

Would it be possible not to remove the xpi's of older versions? We'd like to merge a Pale Moon ebuild into gentoo's tree, however we currently don't have a reliable source for version specific xpi's. Those github releases would be the easiest shot for everyone involved as it doesn't generate additional work for the Pale Moon team.

The published language packs on addons.palemoon.org aren't always compatible with the latest builds (e.g. they were compatible with 27.5.0 and not with 27.6.0 after it was released).

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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby JustOff » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:37 pm

_ntnn wrote:Would it be possible not to remove the xpi's of older versions?

If you mean this link, then the language packs located there are for test purposes only and can not be considered a trusted source.

We'd like to merge a Pale Moon ebuild into gentoo's tree

You can use xpi-packages from the addons.palemoon.org or build unofficial versions from this repo yourself.

we currently don't have a reliable source for version specific xpi's

Please note that the language packs for Pale Moon 27.x are cumulative, i.e. they support all versions of the browser since 27.0.0, so there is no need for version-specific packages.

The published language packs on addons.palemoon.org aren't always compatible with the latest builds (e.g. they were compatible with 27.5.0 and not with 27.6.0 after it was released).

This is impossible, otherwise we would have a constant flow of complaints of incompatibility.
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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby _ntnn » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:00 pm

Please note that the language packs for Pale Moon 27.x are cumulative, i.e. they support all versions of the browser since 27.0.0, so there is no need for version-specific packages.

Yes, and that is why we can't use the language packs provided on addons.palemoon.org. To ensure that the files received by a user are the same the maintainer evaluated and tested, maintainers of a package create a manifest, which contains hashes of all remote files that will be downloaded. When the language packs are updated the hashes are invalid and the package is broken until a maintainer regenerates them.

This is impossible, otherwise we would have a constant flow of complaints of incompatibility.

That is at least the error I got after building 27.6.0 and trying to add a language pack, that's why I looked for alternatives as well.
Either way - when the language packs start to require a specific version we'll need some sort of persistent store of versioned language pack xpi's anyhow.

The ebuild from deuiore actually clones your repository and uses that - however we'd like to avoid that, as that brings in some problems e.g. if the environment requires the use of a proxy.

As for the experimental status - I am well aware of that, but that is the least of Pale Moons problems on Gentoo and users are instructed after installation to first file bugs in the Gentoo bugtracker.

I'll look into building them based on the tarballs in the releases. Thanks.

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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby JustOff » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:36 pm

Next beta build of language packs (27.0.0-27.5.* compatible) has been published. Thanks to Роман Шендюх contribution Ukrainian language pack is finally 100% translated, verification is in progress.

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:idea: Chinese Simplified, Greek, Portuguese, Portuguese (Brazilian), Spanish and Turkish need updating.

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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby dark_moon » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:30 am

New german string added. Wait for confirmation
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Re: Pale Moon 27 localization

Postby loxodont » Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:35 am

dark_moon wrote:New german string added. Wait for confirmation

Confirmed ... crowdin keeps me updated about changes. ;)


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