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Support browser

Post by lunalupus » 2015-05-02, 19:16

After many years of using Firefox I switched to Pale Moon, approx three months ago, and I love it. I never use F/F any more and I am considering uninstalling it. I would really appreciate any advice on a replacement for Firefox to support Pale Moon, something fast and lightweight. I have browsed a few sights but I can never tell how genuine the reviews are. I am not very 'techy' and I run Vista 32bit.

squarefractal

Re: Support browser

Post by squarefractal » 2015-05-02, 19:23

For something based on Gecko (the same codebase used by Firefox and partially by Pale Moon): try Seamonkey.

For something based on Webkit/Blink: try Chromium/Opera or Qupzilla.

I've had good experiences with them. Although, as far as Chromium/Opera is concerned, I wouldn't use it for any amount of regular browsing because I'm a heavy tab user and the multiprocess architecture consumes quite a bit of memory.

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Re: Support browser

Post by Sajadi » 2015-05-02, 19:25

Fast and lightweight... Well that is a bit hard ;)

But i can offer you a recommendation for something useful.. which works good enough as a secondary browser ;)

http://www.seamonkey-project.org
or if you do not care for Open Source and Gecko engine when using a secondary browser
http://www.vivaldi.com

And if you really prefer lightweight solutions.. which come all along with some more or less smaller or big issues...

http://qupzilla.com
http://midori-browser.org/
http://otter-browser.org

lunalupus

Re: Support browser

Post by lunalupus » 2015-05-02, 20:57

Thanks for your replies,guys. I did say that I wasn't 'techy' so please excuse my ignorance. What do you mean by the terms Gecko, Webkit/Blink and Open Source?

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Re: Support browser

Post by megaman » 2015-05-02, 21:04

detsi wrote:Thanks for your replies,guys. I did say that I wasn't 'techy' so please excuse my ignorance. What do you mean by the terms Gecko, Webkit/Blink and Open Source?
Gecko is the rendering engine used in Firefox, Palemoon, etc.
Webkit is the rendering engine in Safari and older versions of Chromium. Maybe Webkit 2 is the new one.
Blink is a fork of Webkit which renders in Chromium(Chromium, Chrome, UCBrowser).

Open Source means that you can get the code and make something to your liking, without ramifications.

lunalupus

Re: Support browser

Post by lunalupus » 2015-05-02, 21:32

Thanks again for the info'. Qupzilla seems to fit the bill. Any issues I should know about?

dark_moon

Re: Support browser

Post by dark_moon » 2015-05-02, 23:34

I dont think you get support for Qupzilla here, because this is the Pale Moon forum.
Contact the Qupzilla guys if you have questions.

Anyway you have use Windows Internet Explorer too as a backup browser. Set all security to hightest and you are fine. Even if i didnt understand why users need a backup browser, because Pale Moon works and if it dont work because of some problems, just create a new Pale Moon profile/ or use safemode.

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Re: Support browser

Post by Sajadi » 2015-05-02, 23:39

It depends what you want to do with the browser.

If you want to watch Videos with it, i would rather use Vivaldi - as it is more compatible with Youtube and HTML5 - Midori and Qupzilla offer no real HTML5 video playback on Windows, only over Flash.

HTML5 will replace the old flash video player on Youtube - so it is better to use a browser which supports higher Video playback capabilities.

Same for Webradio/Webcast playback.

If you just want to use the secondary browser for things like reading news or browsing a bit around, Qupzilla is more then enough. If you want to use Audio/Video related features, better use Seamonkey - is the Open Source browser where users have the chance to read the source code of which the browser was made of, or Vivaldi - closed source, where the user has no chance to check out the code.

What is important to mention in the end: Seamonkey and Vivaldi have a rather high HTML5 support, for this reason alone i would recommend you to pick one of these 2 :)

Internet Explorer aka IE - has one single advantage.. it is included in the Operating System - but at least i would not recommend it at all :D

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