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Re: Can we freely discuss the new Palemoon direction?

Posted: 2014-10-25, 03:17
by cooperb21
Night Wing wrote:
cooperb21 wrote:But i do know thats most people i know use chrome follow by ie then firefox.
Most of my friends use Pale Moon, not Chrome. Yet, in the small town I live in, there are many elderly people and they are computer illiterate. Do you know what browser they use? They use IE since it came with Windows 7.

How do I know this? Because the computer shop where I help out at, I have to clean the viruses off their Windows 7 computers and/or re-install Windows 7 on their computers. When I look at their installed programs in "Programs and Features", there is no listing for Google Chrome. I always ask them what browser do they use. It's always IE.

So I think Net Market Share is a good source for what desktop market share IE, Chrome and Firefox actually have.
Usually people who send there pc to a computer shop dont know much about them or are not smart users thats why it got infected in first place. So of course all the pc's there have IE on them. Not really a good comparison.

Also i think the main reason that Chrome is higher in some is they include mobile data. Chrome gets large chunk from that most Android phones have it install.

IE has 0% of mobile market.

Re: Can we freely discuss the new Palemoon direction?

Posted: 2014-10-25, 04:33
by NorrinRadd
Trippynet wrote:It depends where you look to be honest.

On the other hand, netmarketshare shows that Firefox declined from 18.5% to 16.8% (a 1.7% drop) between November 2013 and May 2014 (7 months), but then declined from 16.8% to 14.1% (a 2.7% drop) between May and September (5 months). So the acceleration of decline since Australis is certainly reflected by those stats.
Can't... fight... pedantic... urges...

Technically, it's a drop of 2.7 percentage points, but a 16.1% drop: (14.1-16.8)/16.8 = -0.1607 = -16.7%

Re: Can we freely discuss the new Palemoon direction?

Posted: 2014-10-25, 06:54
by bawldiggle
My pedantic urge is ... :mrgreen:

I want Palemoon to prosper even if we are a niche and Moonchild and Tobin can stay sane during the process. :coffee: and :thumbup:

Re: Can we freely discuss the new Palemoon direction?

Posted: 2014-10-25, 06:55
by New Tobin Paradigm
01d[hook wrote:My pedantic urge is ... :mrgreen:

I want Palemoon to prosper even if we are a niche and Moonchild and Tobin can stay sane during the process. :coffee: and :thumbup:
Sanity isn't a problem here :crazy: :thumbup:

Re: Can we freely discuss the new Palemoon direction?

Posted: 2014-10-25, 07:48
by bawldiggle
Not even an occasional twitch ??? :lol:

Re: Can we freely discuss the new Palemoon direction?

Posted: 2014-10-25, 12:29
by Night Wing
cooperb21 wrote:Usually people who send there pc to a computer shop dont know much about them or are not smart users thats why it got infected in first place. So of course all the pc's there have IE on them. Not really a good comparison.

Also i think the main reason that Chrome is higher in some is they include mobile data. Chrome gets large chunk from that most Android phones have it install.

IE has 0% of mobile market.
Remember the link I put up in my previous post? That link explicitly states it is for "desktop market share". For me, desktop market share means, "laptops and desktops".

As for mobile browser share, Safari, Chrome (Android) are big in mobile (and tablet).

http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-m ... pcustomb=1

Re: Can we freely discuss the new Palemoon direction?

Posted: 2014-10-25, 13:46
by cooperb21
Night Wing wrote:
cooperb21 wrote:Usually people who send there pc to a computer shop dont know much about them or are not smart users thats why it got infected in first place. So of course all the pc's there have IE on them. Not really a good comparison.

Also i think the main reason that Chrome is higher in some is they include mobile data. Chrome gets large chunk from that most Android phones have it install.

IE has 0% of mobile market.
Remember the link I put up in my previous post? That link explicitly states it is for "desktop market share". For me, desktop market share means, "laptops and desktops".

As for mobile browser share, Safari, Chrome (Android) are big in mobile (and tablet).

http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-m ... pcustomb=1
Not possible if 85% of phones are Android and 11% ios.

http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone- ... -share.jsp

Re: Can we freely discuss the new Palemoon direction?

Posted: 2014-10-25, 13:56
by Night Wing
cooperb21 wrote:Not possible if 85% of phones are Android and 11% ios.

http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone- ... -share.jsp
In smartphones, Android and iOS are the main players, with Android having the lion's share by quite a lot over iOS.