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Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by cartel » 2026-06-23, 10:33

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Google has jumped the shark
right on archive.ph

oh but if you use chrome....
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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by Moonchild » 2026-06-23, 11:21

cartel wrote:
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but if you use chrome....
...they already know exactly who you are, so it's just theatre.
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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by cartel » 2026-06-23, 11:23

Users on GrapheneOS, LineageOS, CalyxOS, or Firefox for Android automatically fail verification – not because they are bots, but because they don't run Google's software.
https://friendlycaptcha.com/insights/fraud-defense/

know me or not, I dont own a cellphone. so soon I wont be able to login to jack sh*t
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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-06-23, 14:08

Wouldn't surprise me. That said, after pointing out the motorcycle in a dozen images.. I got in without a QR code thingy.
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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by Theresnothinghere » 2026-06-23, 14:22

I actually see google's CAPTCHA in use less and less, they used to be everywhere, now pretty rare, I can only list Facebook and Google off the top of my head.
Most websites switched to Cloudflare or hCaptcha which for fine in PM (though it wasn't always the case).

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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by Night Wing » 2026-06-23, 19:06

I also do not own a smartphone. I'm old so I grew up without a smartphone so I do not need one. BTW, I still remember the rotary phone when I was young. I have never seen a QR code to access a site. But I do run into the "image" puzzle once in awhile when I use my linux Pale Moon.
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Back to a QR code. My medical lab work is done by Quest Diagnostic. They sent me a QR code via email to make it easy for me to access their lab site for medical tests (blood, urine, etc). I just printed out the email on a printer which contains the QR code, then cut the QR code out to use it when I went to Quest Diagnostics earlier this morning and the QR code was scanned which allowed me access to their office/lab suite.
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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by BenFenner » 2026-06-23, 19:22

When I run into QR-codes that I absolutely must decipher, I have to take a screenshot, crop it, then feed it to an online interpreter to get the link out of it. So fun! :roll:


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BTW, I still remember the rotary phone when I was young.
This is my dream cell phone. It's a shame it was so expensive, and so involved to build from the kit. And then it became NLA. I could never justify the outlay...

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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by cartel » 2026-06-23, 20:10

Night Wing wrote:
2026-06-23, 19:06
I also do not own a smartphone. I'm old so I grew up without a smartphone so I do not need one. BTW, I still remember the rotary phone when I was young. I have never seen a QR code to access a site. But I do run into the "image" puzzle once in awhile when I use my linux Pale Moon.
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Back to a QR code. My medical lab work is done by Quest Diagnostic. They sent me a QR code via email to make it easy for me to access their lab site for medical tests (blood, urine, etc). I just printed out the email on a printer which contains the QR code, then cut the QR code out to use it when I went to Quest Diagnostics earlier this morning and the QR code was scanned which allowed me access to their office/lab suite.
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yes I remember the old phones. In jail they dialed the number for you. after that I would hang up and dial the number with the hang up mechanism, click click click, click click click click click, chick click. almost like morse code.
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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by Mæstro » 2026-06-23, 23:55

I cannot remember the last time I could see Recaptcha. For better or worse, and we all know how the latter can be, everyone seems to prefer Cloudflare. I forsook Archive Today long ago, which I formerly quite liked, after finding its antibot too intrusive. I find it ghastly that Google apparently supposes everyone keeps a mobile on hand at all times, even when using a computer. Are people so addicted to glowing oblongs now that just one is not enough?
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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by JayByrd » 2026-06-24, 00:03

Moonchild wrote:
2026-06-23, 11:21
...they already know exactly who you are, so it's just theatre.
I agree that this is the case on one level. On another level, it's more than theater, in that we (the public at large) are being used to train the bots. Every captcha that gets completed is another data-point upon which to "train" their visual-pattern-matching algorithms... Free labor for google, et al. and a tacit admission that the bots aren't truly intelligent--after all, those captchas are supposed to be solvable by even dim-witted humans, but are beyond the capability of even the best bots...
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2026-06-23, 19:06
I also do not own a smartphone. I'm old so I grew up without a smartphone so I do not need one. ...
"How could you not need one?"

That's the attitude I encounter when people find out I don't own one. "How do you find places?"
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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by Daikun » 2026-06-24, 01:12

I found this website that can decode QR codes. Could that work?

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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by jobbautista9 » 2026-06-24, 02:14

Funnily the QR code version of reCAPTCHA looks more like the social engineering attempts I see on the internet. Who wanna bet that some malware is going to exploit this setup to give malicious instructions to a unsuspecting person?
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Post by Mæstro » 2026-06-24, 02:23

JayByrd wrote:
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Every captcha that gets completed is another data-point upon which to "train" their visual-pattern-matching algorithms... Free labor for google, et al…
Glib popular exponents of transhumanism practically worshipped self-driving cars a decade ago. Recaptcha still uses North American driving examples like always, but the self-driving cars themselves seem to have faded into the background without ever bearing fruit. The theme would seem vestigial to me.
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Post by van p » 2026-06-24, 03:27

BenFenner wrote:
2026-06-23, 19:22
online interpreter
What is that and how is it used/how does it work?

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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by BenFenner » 2026-06-24, 04:40

van p wrote:
2026-06-24, 03:27
BenFenner wrote:
2026-06-23, 19:22
online interpreter
What is that and how is it used/how does it work?
I'm referring to sites like these: https://noai.duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon ... der&ia=web

Just be careful that what you send them is not something you want to potentially keep secret (like a MFA token or similar).

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Post by Mæstro » 2026-06-24, 05:04

I find it all the more baffling that bad antibots persist when better ones exist. My favourite is probably 4get’s. No JavaScript, just find the fumos. I like fumo-finding.
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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by Moonchild » 2026-06-24, 05:33

Mæstro wrote:
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My favourite is probably 4get’s.
"Find the four images of Minecraft" that would be impossible to solve for someone who has never played it themselves. And there are plenty of people in that group... I guess it automatically gates on a certain audience ;)
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Post by RealityRipple » 2026-06-24, 06:57

If read by a normal qr reader, it decodes as a link (https://recaptcha.net/qr/zBOQtVyk), which redirects to a help page on this type of captcha. If you don't know where you're supposed to submit the characters at the end of the URL to, you can't complete the authentication process.

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Post by Lucio Chiappetti » 2026-06-24, 08:07

Daikun wrote:
2026-06-24, 01:12
I found this website that can decode QR codes. Could that work?
Seems it works in converting QR code to an URL (not gone any further).
Could be useful for QR codes online, but not if they are printed, unless you own a scanner.
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Re: Ya I dont own a cellphone and even if I did....NO

Post by athenian200 » 2026-06-24, 09:15

This kind of thing is exactly what I've been prepping for even since before I was a Pale Moon user. I went down the rabbit hole of finding out that Google owns reCAPTCHA after I blocked all Google servers at the IP level, ran that way for about a year. A ton of sites couldn't verify I was human without pretty much letting Google invade my privacy and vouch for me.

This QR code thing is just them making the rule explicit, tying it further into Google's approved technology stack, and doing what I always figured they would do with it once I found out they were in control of human verification.

To be honest, this is annoying to me for multiple reasons. Putting aside how much I dislike Google, even if I was fine with them, I hate encountering QR codes in real life because my phone doesn't have a front-facing camera, it's not designed for social media and taking pictures. I've already been in situations in real life where I couldn't participate in a poll or survey, or attend an event because I couldn't make a QR code work for me (sometimes I can after struggling with it for 15 minutes or in some instances even pulling out my laptop to scan it because that has a better quality camera). It's to the point I get angry every time I see a QR code because it means I'm expected to deal with my phone (which I don't like doing and apparently according to people who know me I seem visibly tense/angry when I have to pull it out), and worse deal with it in a way that assumes I have a good quality front-facing camera which wasn't a priority for me when I picked mine out, as I'm not big on social media and don't do the stupid trick of snapping a picture of the whiteboard with my smartphone while a teacher is teaching rather than taking traditional notes.

I had one teacher get mad that I couldn't just snap a quick photo of the board and wanted to take notes by hand. When she saw my phone, she just told me I had to have a classmate e-mail me the notes, as if I had come to class unprepared or something and she was pissed she had to accommodate me not having a good quality smartphone camera. She pretty much only grudgingly accommodated me with that solution after I pointed out that she didn't mention in the syllabus that we have to use a smartphone, let alone one with a good quality front-facing camera. I mean, seriously... don't they know sometimes people's phone cameras get damaged or fail even if the phone does have one and sometimes they don't go out and buy a new one right away because of that?
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