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ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by back2themoon » 2026-04-02, 21:49

This happens seemingly randomly and cannot be always be reproduced consistently. You can try:

a) Visiting the homepage and start scrolling down slowly.
b) Opening the homepage in a new background tab while browsing elsewhere.
b) Visiting the homepage, wait for it to load fully then click on some other article and wait.

https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/

This is the nasty crash that leaves zero traces. The browser just disappears. No AppCrashView entries. What I can offer now are a few minidumps via WER.

Uploaded to the FTP.

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Re: ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by Night Wing » 2026-04-02, 22:36

I tried every one of the three methods you listed. I could not get Pale Moon to crash. Then I experimented by grabbing my scrollbar and going up and down as fast I could from the top of the page to the bottom of the page trying to make Pale Moon crash. No crashes.

At the time of this post I am using 64 bit (GTK2) linux Pale Moon 31.4.0 running in 64 bit MX Linux (Infinity) Xfce. And uBlock Origin 1.16.6.1 is enabled for the site.
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Re: ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by back2themoon » 2026-04-02, 22:39

Yes, it's tricky and perhaps related to my installation. But it does occur. Hopefully those files will reveal something.

Forgot to mention it's the SSE2 build.

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Re: ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by ownedbywuigi » 2026-04-03, 09:27

No issues on both AVX2 build of Pale Moon but also other UXP browsers (Basilisk, Dactyloidae nightly).
Maybe it's your extensions?
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Re: ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by Night Wing » 2026-04-03, 09:51

back2themoon wrote:
2026-04-02, 22:39
Forgot to mention it's the SSE2 build.
All of my supported Flags on this desktop tower computer: AVX, AVX2, HT, LM, NX, PAE, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4_1, SSE4_2, SSSE3, VMX

I update my Pale Moon manually. I get my 64 bit GTK2 linux tarballs at: https://www.palemoon.org/download.shtml
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Re: ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by UCyborg » 2026-04-04, 20:20

Where did it crash?

I've got a random crash on GitHub today (project settings), mozjs.dll, offset 0x38332a, exception code 0xc0000005. Version 34.1.0, x64 SSE2 build.

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Re: ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by back2themoon » 2026-04-04, 20:28

Same values as yours. Only this seems to change: (on every crash it's different)

Fault offset: 0x000000000012e43c

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Re: ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by UCyborg » 2026-04-04, 20:43

OK, so it crashes in different parts. Can't tell whether my crash had anything in common with yours.

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Re: ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by back2themoon » 2026-04-04, 22:11

I currently use CleanLinks2 (similar to moonbat's Pure URL).

I suspect it might be related. Mostly a hunch, really. No crashes yet after excluding the website, but it's too soon to draw any conclusions.

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Re: ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by Moonchild » 2026-04-06, 08:22

Nuck-TH probably needs to look into this as it seems to be related to SSE2 builds.
back2themoon wrote:
2026-04-04, 20:28
on every crash it's different
This is a major red flag for overall stability of the build. It may not be code-related in that case, but rather a problem with the build environment.
I've seen this happen in cases where the compiler or linker ran out of (real) RAM while compiling code, and some cases where the machine had been running for a long session (suspect here being memory fragmentation before the build process began; can be solved with a fresh restart before building releases). Using too aggressive optimizations can also cause this but I'm assuming these builds are made with the optimizations I've indicated for release builds.
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Re: ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by nicolaasjan » 2026-04-06, 09:17

I get random crashes on GitHub as well with the AVX2 build from here.
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Re: ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by Nuck-TH » 2026-04-07, 12:42

Idk what i can do.
VM is set up according to dev site and with latest update of windows and VS, 8Gb dedicated ram and pagefile of same size.

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Re: ilfattoquotidiano.it - crash

Post by back2themoon » 2026-04-10, 10:49

Just uploaded another minidump. PM 34.2.0, SSE2