How to ajust the time used by Pale Moon?

[RuudNetherlands]

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In Pale moon the "clock" is one hour in front of my time zone: Central European Summer Time (CEST)
I search the about:config but can't find what item I have to change to correct this.

Can anyone tell me where I can ajust the time setting?

In the picture: the same item on Ebay, left side in Chrome, right side in Pale Moon. In Chrome end time is 16:19, in PaleMoon the incorrect 15:19
When I view an Email in Pale Moon it's the same, the time stamp is one hour earlier than the same email in Thunderbird.

[suzyne]

I remember the problem of daylight savings time issues in Pale Moon being reported before viewtopic.php?t=30361 but the discussion ended before getting to a cause or solution.

[Lucio Chiappetti]

I thought a browser has nothing to do with time setting (which is actually time representation, the system time, at least under Linux, is kept in UTC, and displayed in your local timezone) ... either it is a business of your system (so whatever time your machine is set will be used by all applications), or more usually it is a server side business (i.e. what you see in a page it is set by the site you access ... I know some phpBB forums for instance require the user to toggle daylight saing time manually).

As an example with a sequence of server side includes like this

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<!--#exec cmd="TZ=:/usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Godthab ; export TZ ; date"-->

I can obtain a page showing the time in any timezone known to the system http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/W ... zones.html

[suzyne]

more usually it is a server side business

Yes, but there are options to use JavaScript in the browser to get the date and time too, so it doesn't have to come from a server.

[Moonchild]

Pale Moon takes time information from the O.S. - it's not separately set inside the browser.
I've also never seen it be offset myself; it always matches the OS time. Is your time zone in the OS's regional settings set correctly (for your country, assuming Netherlands)? Is your account information in eBay (and webmail) set correctly to the correct time zone? You'd see a 1-hour offset if the time would be set to UTC (+DST)

[RuudNetherlands]

I remember the problem of daylight savings time issues in Pale Moon being reported before viewtopic.php?t=30361 but the discussion ended before getting to a cause or solution.

Yes this is the problem I have.
If possible this question can be added to this discussion.

[RuudNetherlands]

Pale Moon takes time information from the O.S. - it's not separately set inside the browser.
Is your time zone in the OS's regional settings set correctly (for your country, assuming Netherlands)?
Is your account information in eBay (and webmail) set correctly to the correct time zone? You'd see a 1-hour offset if the time would be set to UTC (+DST)

yes timezone is correct, see picture
EBay: see picture in first post. It's the same item, at the same computer at the same time. Left site with Chrome, Right side with Pale moon.
Same account logged in, different time so I think it's not in the account settings.

@Lucio Chiappetti
I used your link to display the time table with Pale moon,the displayed time is correct.

Last picture, Ebay time vs system time

It's not a big problem, I know it's there so I don't need a solution but I hoped it would be some kind of adjustable setting
If there's no solution I hope I remeber to post what happens after changing daylight savings time

Thanks to everyone for the answers!!

Ruud

[RedRamGT]

Pale Moon is an hour off during Daylight Savings Time with some applications. It worked with 31.1.1 and stopped working with 31.2.0.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30361

[Moonchild]

I'm unable to reproduce. ebay shows the correct time for me.
I'm also unsure which version of Windows you are on; that looks pretty old-school.

Can you please go to Help->Troubleshooting information, and copy the troubleshooting info with the button on that page to your clipboard and paste it in your reply?

[UCyborg]

I'm also unsure which version of Windows you are on; that looks pretty old-school.

Looks like Win7 set to use classic theme.

[RedRamGT]

With Windows-7 Professional 64-Bit, and Pale Moon 64-Bit, the time stamps on Yahoo Mail is off by an hour during Daylight Savings Time. It is correct during the rest of the year, when the time zone is back on Standard Time. The same thing also occurs with the schedule on CBC.CA/Listen... Both work correctly with the current Firefox ESR, 115.24.0. I have also seen this happen with the BBC website, but I don't go there very often.

[RuudNetherlands]

I'm also unsure which version of Windows you are on; that looks pretty old-school.

Looks like Win7 set to use classic theme.

Yes Win7 64bit with classic theme

Troubleshooting info:


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[suzyne]

Off-topic:
Here, it's winter right now, otherwise I would love to do some website tests, but sadly Summer Time (Daylight savings) is a long way away. For me, the warmer weather can't come quick enough because cold days and the sun low in the sky I find depressing.

[Veit Kannegieser]

Perhaps it is a difference because the site scrips asks for UTC instead of local date/time, like getUTCHours() instead of getHours(), and the does calculations on wrong assumptions.
Test here: https://kannegieser.net/date.html

[RuudNetherlands]

Perhaps it is a difference because the site scrips asks for UTC instead of local date/time, like getUTCHours() instead of getHours(), and the does calculations on wrong assumptions.
Test here: https://kannegieser.net/date.html

UTC: 2025-5-24 17:12:28,850
local: 2025-5-24 19:12:28,850

[RedRamGT]

I don't know how they are getting the time, time zone, and time zone offsets - but it did work properly with Pale Moon 31.1.1 and not work beginning with Pale Moon 31.2.0.

Here is the schedule from the CBC.CA/Listen website, for 31.1.1

Pale Moon Test 31.1.1.jpg

And for for 31.2.0:

Pale Moon Test 31.2.0.jpg

Notice the difference between the two, in the description of the time zones. This is from this afternoon, at about 2:00 PM. (I keep the old Pale Moon releases in case they're needed.)

[adoxa]

It gets the timezone like this:

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(new Date).toLocaleString("en-US", {timeZoneName: "short"})

For me I get "GMT+10" (Eastern Australia); if I explicitly add timeZone: "America/New_York" I get "EDT"; however, timeZone: "-04" errors when it shouldn't (Firefox gives "GMT-4").