Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

[back2themoon]

I had to disable ublock and umatrix to get through it.

Both of these can break the CF check if not configured correctly - especially the latter.

[Mæstro]

I had to disable ublock and umatrix to get through it.

Both of these can break the CF check if not configured correctly - especially the latter.

Elaborating on their proper configuration for Cloudflare to work would make an invaluable guide for the tutorials section, if you would be able and willing to write one.

[flamelord]

Broken 2 days in a row now
Not even a tickbox
Didn't try without uBlock, but it makes you wonder how the problem was fixed for a day or two before being broken again
Makes you wonder wtf are the mongs at Cloudflare doing
They gotta be fucking with us on purpose

[Gemmaugr]

Except for that one hiccup on the 24th, CF has been working since the easter incident. With uBO and eMatrix.

[back2themoon]

Elaborating on their proper configuration for Cloudflare to work would make an invaluable guide for the tutorials section, if you would be able and willing to write one.

Here's my effort, at a migraine-inviting 4.30 AM:

Cloudflare Turnstile: ηMatrix/uBlock Origin guide for proper function

[JoeyGreen]

I guess today is when the click 'n loop arrives for me.
As I persistently clicking out of boredom, this happens?

CFshit2.png

I wonder what with the sudden QR thingy?

I can still access other cf-turnstile enabled websites and pass the cf-are-you-bot check, but on that website.

[Moonchild]

I wonder what with the sudden QR thingy?

According to my QR reader, this is 9f5f659d6c38445e, which seems like the kind of hex pattern CF uses for Ray IDs, but it could really be any hex ID; maybe they are trying to make it easier to see which parts/instantiations of their stuff are failing?

[Night Wing]

I guess today is when the click 'n loop arrives for me.

I was curious to see if I could get the same result. I went straight to the site and never got the CF "stuff".

[andyprough]

I watched a colleague try to access a travel insurance site yesterday from Brave browser, and he hit the Cloudflare endless looping turnstile. We watched it for quite a few minutes to make certain that was really happening, and refreshed the page, but the endless looping behavior continued.

Looks like something is pretty much broken across the boards right now. I'll bet Cloudflare is getting a metric crapload of complaints from other browser users.

[franstam]

I watched a colleague try to access a travel insurance site yesterday from Brave browser, and he hit the Cloudflare endless looping turnstile. We watched it for quite a few minutes to make certain that was really happening, and refreshed the page, but the endless looping behavior continued.

Looks like something is pretty much broken across the boards right now. I'll bet Cloudflare is getting a metric crapload of complaints from other browser users.

same, tested a site on both thorium and firefox esr and both being my "fallback browsers" they both fell flat on face, and infinite looping on the checks.
i guess cf ddosed their own customers by denying access lol!

[Gemmaugr]

I guess today is when the click 'n loop arrives for me.

I was curious to see if I could get the same result. I went straight to the site and never got the CF "stuff".

I tried the same, and it happened when I tried going into a manga. In my case I clicked on isekai and then "there was a cute girl in the hero's party..."

CF didn't show up before or after the challenge, in eMatrix (I passed it), so now you can't even tell which ones uses it apparently.

[back2themoon]

Seems like the Turnstile is a playground for Cloudflare trainees. That company is really not feeling the weight and gravity of what they are (supposed to be) doing.

Hey Cloudflare, why not add Doom to the Turnstile while we wait for Verification?

[Moonchild]

Seems like the Turnstile is a playground for Cloudflare trainees.

That company is really not feeling the weight and gravity of what they are (supposed to be) doing.

There is only so many times I will accept "utter incompetence" as a valid reason for this. Conveniently, neither thorium nor Firefox ESR are on their "supported" list, neither is Brave. So, they are cracking down harder on screwing everyone over that isn't on there, if I have to draw an inference here.

[Kand_in_Sky]

Still keeps looping on Win7, works on Win10, tested with 4chan & imginn.
Really don't know why.
Maybe some settings on my win7 system are screwed.

Allgemeine Informationen
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Name: Pale Moon
Version: 34.2.2 (64-bit)
Build ID: 20260429154903
Update-Kanal: release
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/6.8 Firefox/128.0 PaleMoon/34.2.2
Betriebssystem: Windows_NT 6.1
CPU-Fähigkeiten: SSE2 AVX
Abgesicherter Modus: false

Erweiterungen
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Version: 34.0
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ID: uBlock0@raymondhill.net

Name: URL Clipper
Version: 1.0.3
Aktiviert: true
ID: url-clipper@tekir.org

Grafik
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Allgemeine Merkmale
Compositing: Basic
GPU-beschleunigte Fenster: 0/1 Basic (OMTC)
Asynchrones Wischen und Zoomen: nichts
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H264-Dekodierung durch Hardware: No; Hardware video decoding disabled or blacklisted
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DirectWrite: false (6.2.9200.22164)
GPU 1
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Subsys-ID: 00000000
RAM: 2048

Weitere Informationen
AzureCanvasBackend: skia
AzureCanvasSkiaOpenGL: 0
AzureContentBackend: cairo
AzureFallbackCanvasBackend: cairo
Entscheidungsprotokoll
HW_COMPOSITING:
disabled by user: Disabled by pref
D3D11_COMPOSITING:
unavailable by default: Hardware compositing is disabled
DIRECT2D:
unavailable by default: Direct2D requires Direct3D 11 compositing
D3D11_HW_ANGLE:
unavailable by default: D3D11 compositing is disabled
disabled by env: D3D11 compositing is disabled




Wichtige modifizierte Einstellungen
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media.av1.enabled: true
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places.database.lastMaintenance: 1777729273
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Wichtige gesperrte Einstellungen
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Places Datenbank
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JavaScript
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Inkrementelle GC: true

Barrierefreiheit
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Aktiviert: false
Barrierefreiheit verhindern: 1

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NSSUTIL
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[Moonchild]

Maybe scriptblock is interfering?

[andyprough]

Still keeps looping on Win7, works on Win10, tested with 4chan & imginn.
Really don't know why.
Maybe some settings on my win7 system are screwed.

You could make a temporary clean new profile in about:profiles and try those web pages on the clean profile without any extensions. You should find out pretty quickly if it's Cloudflare blocking something about your system or not.

[Gemmaugr]

Tellu-White didn't post troubleshooting information, and flamelord only posted a partial incomplete picture, but comparing Biopsin and Kand_in_Sky's info, shows these as being the same (as opposed to mine that I posted, which don't use skia and have HW enabled).

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Diagnostics
AzureCanvasBackend: skia
AzureCanvasSkiaOpenGL: 0
AzureContentBackend: cairo
AzureFallbackCanvasBackend: cairo
CairoUseXRender: 1
Decision Log
HW_COMPOSITING:
disabled by user: Disabled by pref
OPENGL_COMPOSITING:
unavailable by default: Hardware compositing is disabled

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Weitere Informationen
AzureCanvasBackend: skia
AzureCanvasSkiaOpenGL: 0
AzureContentBackend: cairo
AzureFallbackCanvasBackend: cairo
Entscheidungsprotokoll
HW_COMPOSITING:
disabled by user: Disabled by pref
D3D11_COMPOSITING:
unavailable by default: Hardware compositing is disabled
DIRECT2D:
unavailable by default: Direct2D requires Direct3D 11 compositing
D3D11_HW_ANGLE:
unavailable by default: D3D11 compositing is disabled
disabled by env: D3D11 compositing is disabled

Not sure if relevant, but it's CF, so you never know.

[Kand_in_Sky]

No scriptblocking, no adblocker.
New profile did not help. It keeps looping.

[Night Wing]

@ Kand_in_Sky

This is just a guess.

In one of your previous posts, you stated it works on Windows 10, but not on Windows 7. Since Windows 7 reached end of life in January of 2020, maybe some sites no longer support Windows 7.

[Kand_in_Sky]

other browser (FF/Chrome, even old outdatet versions) do work on win7 with cloudscam