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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by andyprough » 2026-07-13, 07:20

Yes, I see it now. No forced restart required yet, but definitely its looping right now.

Edit - some are still working, although slowly. The MX Linux and antiX Linux forums are both getting past the Cloudflare check for me. The Phoronix Linux comments section seems to be failing.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by patrick-g » 2026-07-13, 07:53

blue_dragon wrote:
2026-07-13, 07:16
can you send some feedback to https://challenges.cloudflare.com/cdn-c ... to/failure ?

when i try i get "An unknown error occurred. Please try again later."
Same.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by Behemot » 2026-07-13, 08:27

Can confirm, what was working on saturday, now hangs. I'm on C2D here so the whole browser pretty much freezes, occupying whole CPU core for itself.
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by KlarkKentThe3rd » 2026-07-13, 10:07

And just like that........ it's fixed.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by blue_dragon » 2026-07-13, 10:14

KlarkKentThe3rd wrote:
2026-07-13, 10:07
And just like that........ it's fixed.
thats a relief at least as it didnt last days

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by andyprough » 2026-07-13, 13:36

blue_dragon wrote:
2026-07-13, 10:14
KlarkKentThe3rd wrote:
2026-07-13, 10:07
And just like that........ it's fixed.
thats a relief at least as it didnt last days
I tried it last night on https://www.pclinuxos.com/forum where Cloudflare was exhibiting some strange behavior - it was endlessly looping, but at the same time it had set the cf_clearance cookie, which should have meant that it would have passed through the challenge. However:

Code: Select all

status = 403
server = cloudflare
cf-mitigated = challenge
title = Just a moment...
Error Console errors and warnings included:

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trusted-types / require-trusted-types-for warnings
example.org same-origin probe
eval blocked by CSP
script timeout
nsIWebProgress.DOMWindow warning
At the same time, other pages like antixforums.com and forums.mxlinux.org were slowly passing the challenge, while exhibiting the same Error Console warnings and errors and setting the same clearance cookies.

Looks like it was a bug that was reverted. Cloudflare was not accepting its own current clearance for the page request on some pages while allowing others to pass. The browser was not merely getting stuck on an old page; a fresh fetch with cookies included was still being challenged. I think Cloudflare had to fix this bug, as it probably would have been broken for other browsers as well.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-07-13, 14:23

https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ is going to be https://new.cloudflarestatus.com/ soon. And of course they're going to use TextEncoderStream...rendering the page entirely blank on Pale Moon. It truly seems fallback code is a lost art.
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by blue_dragon » 2026-07-13, 14:28

Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-07-13, 14:23
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ is going to be https://new.cloudflarestatus.com/ soon. And of course they're going to use TextEncoderStream...rendering the page entirely blank on Pale Moon. It truly seems fallback code is a lost art.
fortunately there is a TextEncoderStream polyfill that works fine on Pale Moon. frick those subhuman webdevs for not supporting Pale Moon

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... 37#p273639

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by andyprough » 2026-07-13, 16:33

blue_dragon wrote:
2026-07-13, 14:28
Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-07-13, 14:23
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ is going to be https://new.cloudflarestatus.com/ soon. And of course they're going to use TextEncoderStream...rendering the page entirely blank on Pale Moon. It truly seems fallback code is a lost art.
fortunately there is a TextEncoderStream polyfill that works fine on Pale Moon. frick those subhuman webdevs for not supporting Pale Moon

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... 37#p273639
Yup, and TextEncoderStream polyfill is available on Basilisk by default.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by Daikun » 2026-07-14, 04:21

blue_dragon wrote:
2026-07-13, 14:28
Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-07-13, 14:23
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ is going to be https://new.cloudflarestatus.com/ soon. And of course they're going to use TextEncoderStream...rendering the page entirely blank on Pale Moon. It truly seems fallback code is a lost art.
fortunately there is a TextEncoderStream polyfill that works fine on Pale Moon. frick those subhuman webdevs for not supporting Pale Moon

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... 37#p273639
Thank you for the script--this CloudFlare nonsense has been driving me crazy the past few days.
However, the script seems to have a strange side effect: YouTube comments will not load at all.
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by blue_dragon » 2026-07-14, 04:23

Daikun wrote:
2026-07-14, 04:21
blue_dragon wrote:
2026-07-13, 14:28
Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-07-13, 14:23
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ is going to be https://new.cloudflarestatus.com/ soon. And of course they're going to use TextEncoderStream...rendering the page entirely blank on Pale Moon. It truly seems fallback code is a lost art.
fortunately there is a TextEncoderStream polyfill that works fine on Pale Moon. frick those subhuman webdevs for not supporting Pale Moon

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... 37#p273639
Thank you for the script--this CloudFlare nonsense has been driving me crazy the past few days.
However, the script seems to have a strange side effect: YouTube comments will not load at all.
maybe you can exclude youtube.com for the userscript. none of these would have happened if those Cloudflare plonkers supported Pale Moon
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by Daikun » 2026-07-14, 04:26

Ignore my previous post. Turns out it was a different script.
Sorry about that.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by blue_dragon » 2026-07-14, 04:28

Daikun wrote:
2026-07-14, 04:26
Ignore my previous post. Turns out it was a different script.
Sorry about that.
ah ok

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by janko » 2026-07-29, 12:18

It worked for a while but currently the turnstile does something for a while before putting me back to the "verify I am human" box, repeated attempts do not help; it doesn't even show the troubleshoot link long enough to click. The turnstile test page ( https://browser-compat.turnstile.workers.dev/ ) takes an eternity and blocks a core/freezes the browser for a while with no result except it failed. Same thing on a clean profile without any extension. Here I can click the troubleshoot button but nothing happens. There's no "submit feedback" link anywhere. All on 34.3.1; started happening to me a week ago.

No luck sending feedback via https://challenges.cloudflare.com/cdn-c ... to/failure like for the others. And in any case the text box is too small for their own failure data.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by blue_dragon » 2026-07-29, 12:32

janko wrote:
2026-07-29, 12:18
It worked for a while but currently the turnstile does something for a while before putting me back to the "verify I am human" box, repeated attempts do not help; it doesn't even show the troubleshoot link long enough to click. The turnstile test page ( https://browser-compat.turnstile.workers.dev/ ) takes an eternity and blocks a core/freezes the browser for a while with no result except it failed. Same thing on a clean profile without any extension. Here I can click the troubleshoot button but nothing happens. There's no "submit feedback" link anywhere. All on 34.3.1; started happening to me a week ago.

No luck sending feedback via https://challenges.cloudflare.com/cdn-c ... to/failure like for the others. And in any case the text box is too small for their own failure data.
because web developers working in Cloudflare are all morons

for me the turnstile works fine in normal sites but i see it also freezes the navigator in that test page.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by back2themoon » 2026-07-29, 13:31

blue_dragon wrote:
2026-07-29, 12:32
for me the turnstile works fine in normal sites but i see it also freezes the navigator in that test page.
It has long been established that their test page is NOT meant for Pale Moon. Not yet anyway. So, it won't work no matter how hard you try.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by blue_dragon » 2026-07-29, 13:33

back2themoon wrote:
2026-07-29, 13:31
blue_dragon wrote:
2026-07-29, 12:32
for me the turnstile works fine in normal sites but i see it also freezes the navigator in that test page.
It has long been established that their test page is NOT meant for Pale Moon. Not yet anyway. So, it won't work no matter how hard you try.
ah ok. i hate web developers that doesnt give a bit to Pale Moons

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-07-29, 17:22

blue_dragon wrote:
2026-07-29, 13:33
back2themoon wrote:
2026-07-29, 13:31
blue_dragon wrote:
2026-07-29, 12:32
for me the turnstile works fine in normal sites but i see it also freezes the navigator in that test page.
It has long been established that their test page is NOT meant for Pale Moon. Not yet anyway. So, it won't work no matter how hard you try.
ah ok. i hate web developers that doesnt give a bit to Pale Moons
Sadly, it's not even Web Devs at this point. Web Developers aren't what they used to be. Site building has been obfuscated behind Site Frameworks today, of which most utilize googles V8 javascript engine (like Node/Next/Vue/NW/Angular/React, etc). Both things play into "the churn". Google and Web Devs profit from the turnover that requires constant fiddling. "Job Security" turned Monoculture.
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by blue_dragon » 2026-07-29, 17:39

Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-07-29, 17:22
blue_dragon wrote:
2026-07-29, 13:33
back2themoon wrote:
2026-07-29, 13:31
blue_dragon wrote:
2026-07-29, 12:32
for me the turnstile works fine in normal sites but i see it also freezes the navigator in that test page.
It has long been established that their test page is NOT meant for Pale Moon. Not yet anyway. So, it won't work no matter how hard you try.
ah ok. i hate web developers that doesnt give a bit to Pale Moons
Sadly, it's not even Web Devs at this point. Web Developers aren't what they used to be. Site building has been obfuscated behind Site Frameworks today, of which most utilize googles V8 javascript engine (like Node/Next/Vue/NW/Angular/React, etc). Both things play into "the churn". Google and Web Devs profit from the turnover that requires constant fiddling. "Job Security" turned Monoculture.
i just wish Chrome & Chromium projects just shut down & disappear from this world permanently so we dont need to see those frameworks in such trash source code format