Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

[flamelord]

Do we have to wait for next release for this to be resolved?
So sick of Cloudflare

Windows 7:
Latest Palemoon:
64-bit browser?:

[4td8s]

I'm getting the same problem as OP with Cloudflare on Win10 LTSC 2021 x64 (build 19044) with PM 33.5.1

[back2themoon]

Issue confirmed. This time, during the loop you have the option right there to instantly report the problem directly to Cloudflare ("Send Feedback"). I submitted it a few times on one website, and the problem was solved the next day.

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However, the problem was only solved on that website. So, it's probably a "per-site" solution. Not "per-browser", which means we have to report on their forums. Again. I'll try to make one now so you can all chime in.

Do we have to wait for next release for this to be resolved?

This is not related to any specific Pale Moon releases and no Pale Moon update can fix it. It's a Cloudflare problem.

[back2themoon]

Please post your (civilised ) complaints here below. Do not forget to include your Ray IDs, to be found at the bottom of the problem website. The more users post there, the quicker they'll solve it, hopefully.

https://community.cloudflare.com/t/acce ... ser/764330

Their community uses Discourse which has compatibility issues itself with Pale Moon. Unless if you've applied the Discourse workarounds we have here on our forum, use another browser to post in the Cloudflare community to avoid further grief.

[vectorx]

I see TypeError: k[l] is undefined in the console, do we need to implement something? It works fine in Firefox, no error.

[flamelord]

Issue confirmed. This time, during the loop you have the option right there to instantly report the problem directly to Cloudflare ("Send Feedback"). I submitted it a few times on one website, and the problem was solved the next day.


Cloudflare again.png


However, the problem was only solved on that website. So, it's probably a "per-site" solution. Not "per-browser", which means we have to report on their forums. Again. I'll try to make one now so you can all chime in.

Do we have to wait for next release for this to be resolved?

This is not related to any specific Pale Moon releases and no Pale Moon update can fix it. It's a Cloudflare problem.

I sent one a while ago. I was on 4chan but it's still not fixed yet.
Should I report the problem to 4chan too just in case?

Please post your (civilised ) complaints here below. Do not forget to include your Ray IDs, to be found at the bottom of the problem website. The more users post there, the quicker they'll solve it, hopefully.

https://community.cloudflare.com/t/acce ... ser/764330

Their community uses Discourse which has compatibility issues itself with Pale Moon. Unless if you've applied the Discourse workarounds we have here on our forum, use another browser to post in the Cloudflare community to avoid further grief.

Thanks, but I have a feeling all of these cloudflare problems are something they create to force us to use other browsers like Google Chrome
I hope this issue will be resolved though since Palemoon is probably the only remotely usable browser nowadays and one of the few that isn't botnet

As an aside Cloudflare forum has problems with Palemoon

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[ron_1]

As an aside Cloudflare forum has problems with Palemoon

Yes, as back2themoon wrote (and you quoted): Their community uses Discourse which has compatibility issues itself with Pale Moon

[KlarkKentThe3rd]

Off-topic:
Fellow 4chan poster? Nice

Yes, this is a low quality post.

[dkaufman]

Ray ID for drunkenslug.com posted to Cloudflare as suggested by back2themoon.

[flamelord]

I made my post over there
Now let’s hope it’s fixed, preferrably systemwide and not just a few sites
Let’s see what happens

[Kand_in_Sky]

As before this is not only a PM error, it affects Waterfox (and probably several other browsers).
Maybe cloudflare should inform their customers that they spaghetti illegal codes works best with botnetChrome

[back2themoon]

I sent one a while ago. I was on 4chan but it's still not fixed yet.
Should I report the problem to 4chan too just in case?

Won't hurt letting them know that Cloudflare is blocking access to their website. However, don't expect them to solve the issue since they'd have to either:

a) Lower their Cloudflare security profile/level etc. (highly unlikely to happen)
b) Completely ditch Cloudflare security (not going to happen, unless a better alternative -for them- emerges)

I'm reading several recent posts at the Cloudflare community, complaining about not getting any kind of response or having their opened issues auto-closed. So:

1. Keep posting your Ray IDs in the above CF community topic -this is the most important part, do not omit it please.
2. Use the self-reporting tool in your problem websites, which may solve the issue more quickly on that website alone. Copy the Ray ID though beforehand, and post it above.
3. Optionally complain to the website you are having problems with, telling them that Cloudflare is essentially blocking access to their website. Not the first time, either.

[flamelord]

I sent one a while ago. I was on 4chan but it's still not fixed yet.
Should I report the problem to 4chan too just in case?

Won't hurt letting them know that Cloudflare is blocking access to their website. However, don't expect them to solve the issue since they'd have to either:

a) Lower their Cloudflare security profile/level etc. (highly unlikely to happen)
b) Completely ditch Cloudflare security (not going to happen, unless a better alternative -for them- emerges)

Yeah I don’t expect anything from Hiroshimoot but hey it doesn’t hurt to bother some jannies(if they read my reports at all)

Cloudflare is everywhere though and is making the web unusable
It’s Google Chrome all over again

[flamelord]

Maybe cloudflare should inform their customers that they spaghetti illegal codes works best with botnetChrome

I honestly think clients don’t give a shit since 99% of users are normies who use Chrome anyways
Cloudflare is killing the internet

[back2themoon]

The first time this occurred (at least I think it was the first - doesn't matter) a post on Hacker News caused a bit of a stir, and a reaction from Cloudflare. I'll link that older post below. Perhaps one of you can post in HN, again. I'm not really familiar with that site. Thanks.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31317886

[Goodydino]

I found that Cloudflare is working a bit better now, at least with one site I want to use. The W3C verification site now works with Gecko and Goanna browsers. Of course, it could be that World Wide Consortium just stopped using it.

[back2themoon]

They haven't fixed it. Here, it only works for the single website I submitted feedback via their "instant report" tool.

All other websites which I have not reported that way (so they can be more reliably tested), still loop indefinitely.

A global fix is needed, as they did in all previous incidents. Perhaps they don't care any more and only really react to these isolated, single reports. I'll wait a few more days before reporting via "Send feedback". It's still a bit early for the giant to wake up and move.

[Moonchild]

It's still a bit early for the giant to wake up and move.

The giant has no trouble waking up and moving very fast when the situation deals with commercialism, though (whether commercial websites or commercial browsers).

[flamelord]

More than 24 hours later and still not fixed
I don’t think it’s getting fixed
I think they broke it themselves on purpose

They can’t even let a tiny minority of web users(Palemoon and other misc. users) alone
It’s not enough that they spy on 99% of users they want 100%, they want all of us to use Google botnet

[xissuesx]

Same here, & cloudflare doesn't seem to respond nor care about their violation of privacy
& attempt to force people to leave palemoon for chrome. I wish a patch could
fix this as a response to their free attitude of preventing people from enjoying
websites on palemoon. it's an abuse of people's freedom.