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Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Milardo » 2023-11-20, 19:47

Operating system: win 10x64 pro
Browser version: 32.5.0
32-bit or 64-bit browser?: 32 bit
Problem URL: unknown
Browser theme (if not default): theme tweaker lightweighttheme
Installed add-ons: extensions: classic toolbar buttons 1.4.2 , Theme Tweaker 1.0.0
Installed plugins: (about:plugins): Silverlight Plug-In (disabled)
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**Application Basics
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Build ID: 20231027150717
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I have palemoon installed on several different computers, I cannot remember what version this problem started but it's a few versions back i think.

Palemoon will exit randomly and I don't know why, happens when refreshing a site and it could be any site. Let me know what other info i need to post and thanks in advance for the help/replies.

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Milardo » 2023-12-07, 18:29

Still happening on 32.5.1.

Anybody have an idea about this?

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by satrow » 2023-12-07, 18:50

Some possibly helpful comments and suggestions beginning to surface here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30642 maybe you have something in common?

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Milardo » 2023-12-07, 19:22

satrow wrote:
2023-12-07, 18:50
Some possibly helpful comments and suggestions beginning to surface here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30642 maybe you have something in common?
I took a look but this has happened to me before 32.5.0.

There were a couple of topics on this subject from before but I don't think they were resolved.

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by satrow » 2023-12-07, 19:34

I have palemoon installed on several different computers, I cannot remember what version this problem started but it's a few versions back i think.
The above statement may imply that this happens across multiple machines, if this is the case it's most likely that some add-on/options/3rd-party software combination is at fault for this.

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Milardo » 2023-12-07, 19:41

satrow wrote:
2023-12-07, 19:34
I have palemoon installed on several different computers, I cannot remember what version this problem started but it's a few versions back i think.
The above statement may imply that this happens across multiple machines, if this is the case it's most likely that some add-on/options/3rd-party software combination is at fault for this.
I did include some info on first post, anything relevant there?

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Kris_88 » 2023-12-07, 20:55

Look at Windows Event Viewer, there may be additional information about the appcrash event.

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Milardo » 2024-02-14, 22:42

Still happening on 33.0.0 32 bit .

What can be done about this?

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Piotr Kostrzewski » 2024-02-14, 23:16

Pale Moon is well optimized (in my opinion) but maybe the reason lies in RAM usage (that's what came to my mind) How much memory do you have?

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Milardo » 2024-02-14, 23:26

Piotr Kostrzewski wrote:
2024-02-14, 23:16
Pale Moon is well optimized (in my opinion) but maybe the reason lies in RAM usage (that's what came to my mind) How much memory do you have?
Hi i have several computers running palemoon browser 33.0.0 32 bit.

One computer has 4gb ram another 8gb ram and another 32 gb ram.

Palemoon just exits without any notification on any of these computers no matter how many tabs are open at any point in time.

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Piotr Kostrzewski » 2024-02-14, 23:49

Milardo wrote:
2024-02-14, 23:26

Hi i have several computers running palemoon browser 33.0.0 32 bit.

One computer has 4gb ram another 8gb ram and another 32 gb ram.

Palemoon just exits without any notification on any of these computers no matter how many tabs are open at any point in time.
Hello,32-bit systems support a maximum of 4 GB RAM. If you have a 64 bit system (if you have a computer with 32 GB Ram I think it is 64 bit) install Pale Moon 64 bit and check if the problem occurs

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Milardo » 2024-02-15, 00:20

Piotr Kostrzewski wrote:
2024-02-14, 23:49
Milardo wrote:
2024-02-14, 23:26

Hi i have several computers running palemoon browser 33.0.0 32 bit.

One computer has 4gb ram another 8gb ram and another 32 gb ram.

Palemoon just exits without any notification on any of these computers no matter how many tabs are open at any point in time.
Hello,32-bit systems support a maximum of 4 GB RAM. If you have a 64 bit system (if you have a computer with 32 GB Ram I think it is 64 bit) install Pale Moon 64 bit and check if the problem occurs
Right, but I have been using 32 bit because I had certain plugins that are probably only compatible with 32bit. I don't regularly use them and they are at "ask to activate" but I don't think that is the problem.

Somebody posted a topic awhile back with same issue and it was an older palemoon version. I had not posted then though thinking it would be fixed in a later version but apparently not.

As i mentioned before palemoon has this problem with a lot of tabs open or just one or two.

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Piotr Kostrzewski » 2024-02-15, 02:18

Milardo wrote:
2024-02-14, 23:26

Right, but I have been using 32 bit because I had certain plugins that are probably only compatible with 32bit. I don't regularly use them and they are at "ask to activate" but I don't think that is the problem.

Somebody posted a topic awhile back with same issue and it was an older palemoon version. I had not posted then though thinking it would be fixed in a later version but apparently not.

As i mentioned before palemoon has this problem with a lot of tabs open or just one or two.
I checked and it turned out to be Silverlight Plug-In
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Java Deployment Toolkit has 64 bit versions available. Try disabling the plugins one by one and see if the problem persists. Silverlight is no longer supported

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Milardo » 2024-02-15, 03:02

Piotr Kostrzewski wrote:
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Milardo wrote:
2024-02-14, 23:26

Right, but I have been using 32 bit because I had certain plugins that are probably only compatible with 32bit. I don't regularly use them and they are at "ask to activate" but I don't think that is the problem.

Somebody posted a topic awhile back with same issue and it was an older palemoon version. I had not posted then though thinking it would be fixed in a later version but apparently not.

As i mentioned before palemoon has this problem with a lot of tabs open or just one or two.
I checked and it turned out to be Silverlight Plug-In
Java(TM) Platform SE
Java Deployment Toolkit has 64 bit versions available. Try disabling the plugins one by one and see if the problem persists. Silverlight is no longer supported
I have silverlight plug-in disabled. Is that enough to prevent the issue? Or do I have to manually remove the plugin?

If not, I just experienced another exit but silverlight I had already disabled.

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Piotr Kostrzewski » 2024-02-15, 05:11

Milardo wrote:
2024-02-14, 23:26



I have silverlight plug-in disabled. Is that enough to prevent the issue? Or do I have to manually remove the plugin?

If not, I just experienced another exit but silverlight I had already disabled.
Uninstall these plugins, see if the problem persists and if not, install them one by one and see if the problem returns. When it returns, uninstall the specific plugin permanently.

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Milardo » 2024-02-20, 20:14

Piotr Kostrzewski wrote:
2024-02-15, 05:11
Milardo wrote:
2024-02-14, 23:26



I have silverlight plug-in disabled. Is that enough to prevent the issue? Or do I have to manually remove the plugin?

If not, I just experienced another exit but silverlight I had already disabled.
Uninstall these plugins, see if the problem persists and if not, install them one by one and see if the problem returns. When it returns, uninstall the specific plugin permanently.
I uninstalled all plugins and it just crashed/exited today again. So I guess it's not plugins fault.

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Piotr Kostrzewski » 2024-02-20, 20:52

Milardo wrote:
2024-02-20, 20:14

I uninstalled all plugins and it just crashed/exited today again. So I guess it's not plugins fault.
Maybe the antivirus is blocking Pale Moon.

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Milardo » 2024-02-20, 21:13

Piotr Kostrzewski wrote:
2024-02-20, 20:52
Milardo wrote:
2024-02-20, 20:14

I uninstalled all plugins and it just crashed/exited today again. So I guess it's not plugins fault.
Maybe the antivirus is blocking Pale Moon.
Probably not.

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Piotr Kostrzewski » 2024-02-20, 21:20

Why do you think so ?

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Re: Palemoon exits without warning or error messages

Unread post by Milardo » 2024-02-20, 21:24

Piotr Kostrzewski wrote:
2024-02-20, 21:20
Why do you think so ?
There aren't any notifications from my firewall or antivirus-using norton 360.

Since the crashes/exiting happens randomly as well.