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Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by ychaouche » 2021-12-26, 09:59

Hello folks,

I've been a happy ff user for years, things started to get a little frustrating lately with multiple crashes
I don't have the patience to troubleshoot. I thought i'd give palemoon a shot. Is there any transition
guide I should be reading ? I'd really appreciated some reading on how to import bookmarks,
copy extensions (instead of re-downloading every single one them) and other things that would
make a smooth transition (like, could palemoon import a whole profile ?)

Thanks !

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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by Pentium4User » 2021-12-26, 14:39

You can use ctrl+shift+o to open the bookmark manager and then you can export your bookmarks as html. You can use the same keystroke to open the manager in PM and import your bookmarks.
Importing add ons is not possible because they use a different system (WebExtensions/XUL). Check https://addons.palemoon.org for PM addons.
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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by ychaouche » 2021-12-26, 14:44

Thanks Pentium4User. I just read about how importing profiles is considered dangerous.
I also learned about the lack of WebComponents support, which is the reason I'll be
looking for other alternatives.

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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by ron_1 » 2021-12-27, 01:03

Did you bother to look at Pale Moon's add-on site??

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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by ychaouche » 2021-12-27, 10:06

hello ron_1, maybe I misunderstood you, but there's no result for webcomponents on the addons website,
if that's what you were suggesting

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and if you were talking about profile management, then the question was about migrating from firefox to
palemoon, i.e import firefox profile, which is not advised.

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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-12-27, 13:18

Webcomponents is not something that can be added with an extension. :roll:
Jesus. This is on par with falling for 'click here to download more RAM'. If you insist on exclusively using websites that use WebComponents, stick with a ChromeZIlla browser.
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maybe we should do this

Unread post by Disil07 » 2021-12-29, 10:39

In the future maybe we should make a proper tutorial on "how to migrating from Firefox/Chromium to Pale moon". We already have one on tutorial subforum, but it is too outdated.
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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by Blacklab » 2021-12-29, 14:27

Disil07 wrote:maybe we should make a proper tutorial on "how to migrating from Firefox/Chromium to Pale Moon"
Not sure I see any point? :?

What more could be said in any tutorial other than Pentium4User's "export your bookmarks as html" as noted above?

There is no longer any residual Pale Moon compatibility with Firefox, there hasn't been for years... and there never was any compatibility with Chromium-based browsers... consequently there's nothing for a tutorial to say or suggest Re: saving or transferring settings, profiles, themes, add-ons, etc.

Why 'transition' at all... why not keep both and have multiple browsers installed anyway? Mix and match, horses for courses? :D

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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-12-30, 00:25

Until about 5 or 6 years ago, you could directly drop in your Firefox profile and have it run in Pale Moon, this was before Firefox dumped XUL. Not anymore. At most you can transfer your bookmarks as mentioned above, you can't transfer cookies and website credentials.
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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by Disil07 » 2021-12-30, 08:33

Yeah we should definitely create a megathread about these things. I hate how people asking the same questions again and again
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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by coffeebreak » 2021-12-30, 08:42

Disil07 wrote:
2021-12-30, 08:33
Yeah we should definitely...
Who is this "we" ?
Disil07 wrote:
2021-12-30, 08:33
megathread
No, we definitely should not.
Disil07 wrote:
2021-12-30, 08:33
I hate how people asking the same questions again and again
Then don't read those posts. And don't respond.

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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by Disil07 » 2021-12-30, 13:04

coffeebreak wrote:
2021-12-30, 08:42
Who is this "we" ?
"We" as a whole community, in order to help the main devs, so they're focusing on implementing needed features.
No, we definitely should not.
But why?
Then don't read those posts. And don't respond.
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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by gepus » 2021-12-30, 14:28

Disil07 wrote:
2021-12-30, 13:04
"We" as a whole community, in order to help the main devs, ...
You are not helping at all by flooding the forum with silly comments.
Four regulars have already explained that except bookmarks there is nothing to migrate.

BTW, if you feel the need to troll, Reddit might be the right choice.

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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-12-30, 23:51

gepus wrote:
2021-12-30, 14:28
BTW, if you feel the need to troll, Reddit might be the right choice.
He's already been complaining there.
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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by Drugwash » 2021-12-31, 17:05

ychaouche wrote:
2021-12-27, 10:06
[...] there's no result for webcomponents on the addons website [...]
People still have to learn how to be helpful and concise at the same time.

So... currently and for the foreseeable future, Pale Moon unfortunately cannot import entire profiles from Firefox or other similar browsers that employ the WebExtensions/WebComponents technologies. At most bookmarks can be imported.

The suggestion regarding the add-ons site was meant as a hint to search for similar old-style XUL add-ons that might perform the functions currently provided by the WebExtensions installed in your Firefox (or whatever other) browser. Of course that would mean installing and setting up all desired add-ons from scratch in your new default Pale Moon profile. Could be tedious, admittedly, but once finished it may pay off.

The choice is yours.

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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by coffeebreak » 2021-12-31, 18:36

Drugwash wrote:
2021-12-31, 17:05
The suggestion regarding the add-ons site was meant as a hint to search for similar old-style XUL add-ons that might perform the functions currently provided by the WebExtensions
It looks like just a simple misunderstanding, due to a post being misread.

The person who suggested to search the add-ons site apparently misread this post as referring to "WebExtensions" when it actually referred to WebComponents.

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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by Drugwash » 2021-12-31, 18:55

It's possible and it is easy to mistake the two. The whole avalanche of other posts proves people have no idea what the heck they are talking about and don't even care about helping the OP. Tragic. :(

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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by illiad » 2022-01-02, 10:32

If 'ychaouche' is still there, maybe listing what 'addons' are needed, it would help..
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Re: Transitionning from firefox on linux to palemoon on linux (same machine)

Unread post by coffeebreak » 2022-01-02, 14:34

illiad wrote:
2022-01-02, 10:32
maybe listing what 'addons' are needed, it would help..
Sorry, but no longer relevant.
Ychaouche's ultimate decision to not transition to Pale Moon did not concern add-ons, or anything else about migrating his profile.

It was due to Pale Moon's lack of WebComponents support:
ychaouche wrote:
2021-12-26, 14:44
I also learned about the lack of WebComponents support, which is the reason I'll be
looking for other alternatives.

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