YouTube will stop supporting Pale Moon

[Pallid Planetoid]

Just thought I'd report: In my specific case (which I'm assuming is currently the case for the vast majority of users ) -- I'm experiencing zero issues with Youtube (using the current PM release).... so far.... (knock-on-wood).

[Moonraker]

gone back to normal for me also so this could be a gradual change in the making.

Is there any viable alternatives to youtube?

[New Tobin Paradigm]

Is there any viable alternatives to youtube?

Battlestar Galactica (1978) DVDs maybe.

[gepus]

While I am not experiencing the OP's issue, I have just recently been getting this on every vid i view:

The video plays fine on my end with the default UserAgent for Firefox Compatibility (no site specific override).
Make sure that the issue isn't at your end.

[Moonraker]

Is there any viable alternatives to youtube?

Battlestar Galactica (1978) DVDs maybe.

Off-topic:
lol don't forget space 1999 either.!

[New Tobin Paradigm]

Off-topic:
I haven't but I will always keep trying.

[THX-1139]

@gepus Funny you say that...I went and tried the stock Gecko user agent (as I had not tried that one) and voila'! the video plays right off! though.
And then I checked again using the FF and Native user agent and sure enough, it all works as it should. Just as I thought; goolag up to their tricksie/works.

[C-Wizard]

I'm using Pale Moon and as I type this there is a YouTube music video playing in another tab. No messages. Just picked another video from a different artist. Working as it should.

[THX-1139]

Off-topic:
I wonder why this behavior reminds me of the movie The Matrix' double cat scene? /r

[coffeebreak]

video plays fine on my end with the default UserAgent for Firefox Compatibility (no site specific override)

@gepus Funny you say that...I went and tried the stock Gecko user agent (as I had not tried that one) and voila'! the video plays right off! [...] then I checked again using the FF and Native user agent and sure enough, it all works as it should.

Pale Moon does have a built-in site-specific UA override for YouTube (it's a modified string for Firefox 42) - unless that override itself is edited, it serves as Pale Moon's default UA for YouTube, so that's what you both have likely been using.

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For the record, YouTube has been working fine on my end leaving the built-in override untouched.

[Pallid Planetoid]

.... For the record, YouTube has been working fine on my end leaving the built-in override untouched.

Yep me too, as I posted at the top of the page I've not had any issues of any kind with Youtube -- and I didn't mention that I've made no change to the default Youtube Override so any issues that some might have would not appear to have anything to do the PP override setting (it would seem).

[gepus]

Pale Moon does have a built-in site-specific UA override for YouTube ...

I know.
Built-in site-specific UA overrides are disabled here so I can better take notice of those assholes.

[Tharthan]

This is a war against individuality and intelligence. Only thing we can do is stand strong.

Mind if I add this to my forum signature, adesh?

[doofy]

I don't use yt much. When I do it is on a redirect to hooktube.
Seems to me that if you buy into the walled garden monoculture that is yt, with its "sign ins" and "subscriptions" and all the rest of the bs that is designed to keep you locked in, then you just use a browser that fits with that mind set.

Do I want Moonchild to waste his limited resources chasing yt?
Of course I don't.
And yes, I apply the same logic to fb.

YT and fb are big sites that loads of people consider essential for their lives.
And I'd be more than happy for MC not to chase them.

[adesh]

This is a war against individuality and intelligence. Only thing we can do is stand strong.

Mind if I add this to my forum signature, adesh?

Off-topic:
Glad that you liked it. You can add.

[rabnbeinn]

No problems here with YouTube.... using Firefox Compatibility Mode with no UA Override.

[coffeebreak]

No problems here with YouTube.... using Firefox Compatibility Mode with no UA Override.

See post above and response by gepus.

@Rabnbeinn, So as to not confuse people through lack of context...
Did you disable site-specific user agent overrides, or did you forget that Pale Moon has one built-in for YouTube?

[zip2mike]

Was on Youtube just now. No such messages appear for me. Must your user agent?

Either that or they are still using the previous milestone in which case the message is absolutely correct.

Hi, I'm the one who started this thread. Since I'm not any kind of developer, I'm out of the loop as far as User Agent and whether I'm using "the previous milestone" or not. I only know that I'm using the latest version of Pale Moon (28.8.0) on my old Lenovo T430 with Windows 10 Pro, Intel i5 2.7GH, 8GB ram, 180GB SSD. Also, I'm located in Japan, in case that's relevant.

Do I need to make some kind of site-specific change to be YouTube compliant at this point? I have ventured into about:config for a few minor tweaks, but I don't know about changing the UA, as has been suggested by others.

UPDATE: That banner saying YouTube plans to discontinue support doesn't appear on every page. For example, when I open the YT homepage, it's not there, but when I click on anything it will open with that banner at the top. Also, when I re-open a tab (after restart) or when I reload a page, the banner only appears for about half a second and then slides up out of view. It is a bit of an inconvenience to have to reload every page, but I can live with it until I see what happens next. Hopefully, it will be sorted out by people who are well-versed in these things. Apparently a few others have seen the notice from YT, so it appears that I'm not the only one. Thanks to all!

[coffeebreak]

Actually, I just saw the warning banner after doing alot of clicking around (this was while using a Firefox 36 override for YouTube).

When doing the same "clicking around" with the default override I couldn't get the warning to show. However a couple of times the page loaded with the new interface. So yeah, it looked like a clear warning shot that Google plans to pull the plug on the classic interface.

It is a bit of an inconvenience to have to reload every page, but I can live with it until I see what happens next.

While this won't affect the underlying issue, if the warning banner annoys you it's possible to hide it cosmetically with an adblocking rule. If you wish to hide it, add the following rule to your personal filters:

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youtube.com##.alerts-wrapper

[Sessh]

So yeah, it looked like a clear warning shot that Google plans to pull the plug on the classic interface.

That might be it. I haven't seen the warning and haven't messed with the YT UA override at all.

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That banner appears atop the page on the upload page using classic interface. The new YT studio only works with the new interface, so if they are trying to phase out the classic interface, this probably has something to do with it. I personally don't care for the new interface, so that would suck.