YouTube will stop supporting Pale Moon

[THX-1139]

Well for me at least it is the old YT UI, NOT the new, and has been that way thru resets and remains that way
After the newest update 2.8.2.1 it went to the New UI but then I just used the Disable Polymer fix in this thread
and it reverted and has been stable, and not slow ever since.
(I think as long as you don't delete the cookies)

[Tharthan]

Google, [...] ⦏i⦎t will absolutely unusable on PM if it'll kept the way like this now...

I have little doubt that that is a bonus from their perspective.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

Google has already established that it can and WILL block arbitrary browsers it considers old and insecure or for any other reason. I am not sure how much longer ANY of Google will be usable on non-chromium or even a non-mainstream chromium browser.

DRM the web seems to be among their end goals reducing it to a modern version of AOL or Compuserve but way worse.

[LL25255252]

Good thing is that two of my scripts work on it...

Care to share those scripts?

Here they are. The auto quality one is optional but you can modify it to whatever you wish I think. I have it at 480p for bandwidth reasons.

Thank you @Ziko577 . I installed the "YouTube_Classic_for_2018_(Polymer_Disable)" you attached on page 8 of this thread and for now the Polymer layout is disabled (at least until March when the "classic" youtube is discontinued).
Pale Moon 28.8.2.1 (32 bit)
Win 7 (x64)

[LL25255252]

Low chances google decides to keep the "Classic" Youtube layout but in case that happens I'm attaching here my 3 addons and 7 scripts for this layout.

Moderator note: Do not use forum attachments to redistribute scripts or extensions. Link to their sources instead!

[NovaDelta]

I got a bit carried away earlier but I meant to ask this

Will there be any updates to optimize Pale Moon for YouTube or is that something out of the developer's control?

Also if anyone has an extension or userstyle or whatever to disable scrolling in the fullscreen video player, that'd be nice.

[Moonchild]

Will there be any updates to optimize Pale Moon for YouTube or is that something out of the developer's control?

One website (no matter how popular) does not the Internet make.
Pale Moon is not a dedicated client for YouTube. If Google decides to make their UI run like shit by design, there's little we can do about it.

[Nightbird]

Will there be any updates to optimize Pale Moon for YouTube ?

that would be an abomination...

[user88818]

I get it I understand moon child. I'm sticking with you. I'm back to announce I gave in, LOL

I have five PCs and three of them are in use one is idle and one is back up for who knows what… Anyway my mainframe I'm using now is still using the classic user agent until I cannot. Two of my others I just went with the flow and use the new YouTube interface. It will be fine.

Nightwing I managed to change the way my cookies were set up on two separate programs and all the settings are holding for YouTube so I don't have to keep changing it black every time. I change the fonts the zoom states everything seems okay on my other computers that are now using the new interface.

On this computer I will switch over when classic is exploded and gone but like I said the other ones are working. It's just fine.

I still think it's really cool being a part of this team what's the next emergency hee hee I don't think I have any other worries at the moment.

A big thank you goes out to all of you and to Moon Child for Being a Part of All of Us. Thanks greatly appreciated.

[BKelley56]

I still prefer the older interface. How can I get it back now that Palemoon has been updated?

Fear not, it is their user-agent sniffing at work; they will be retiring their old user interface currently default in Pale Moon. Despite what the message says, it is aimed at old firefox versions that can't support their newer interface. It thinks we are Firefox due to our override.

We will adjust!

Pale Moon has no trouble supporting their newer interface (the first version of it, anyway, we're working on v2 support) but at the time this UI was introduced on YouTube, it was considered undesirable by our users so we defaulted with an override giving us the old (faster) interface.

[Ziko577]

I still prefer the older interface. How can I get it back now that Palemoon has been updated?

Fear not, it is their user-agent sniffing at work; they will be retiring their old user interface currently default in Pale Moon. Despite what the message says, it is aimed at old firefox versions that can't support their newer interface. It thinks we are Firefox due to our override.

We will adjust!

Pale Moon has no trouble supporting their newer interface (the first version of it, anyway, we're working on v2 support) but at the time this UI was introduced on YouTube, it was considered undesirable by our users so we defaulted with an override giving us the old (faster) interface.

You can change the user agent back for the time being.

[user88818]

if you want to go back to classic just change the user agent.

Open about:config

Then…Look for this general.useragent.override.youtube.com

And change it back to Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 PaleMoon/28.8.2

and that will give you the classic

Apparently it's going to be officially gone in March but we will see. My mainframe is classic and two other computers here I just went with new look.

This is fun I'm going to miss these little tragedies

[BKelley56]

Thank you! I too will miss these little tragedies, but it kills me that someone, somewhere, is changing something that people like!

if you want to go back to classic just change the user agent.

Open about:config

Then…Look for this general.useragent.override.youtube.com

And change it back to Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 PaleMoon/28.8.2

and that will give you the classic

Apparently it's going to be officially gone in March but we will see. My mainframe is classic and two other computers here I just went with new look.

This is fun I'm going to miss these little tragedies

[Marcus]

This new YouTube is obnoxiously slow.
Using SMTube is a workaround.

[Night Wing]

Nightwing I managed to change the way my cookies were set up on two separate programs and all the settings are holding for YouTube so I don't have to keep changing it black every time. I change the fonts the zoom states everything seems okay on my other computers that are now using the new interface.

Since you like the Dark Theme in the new YouTube interface, I figured you would eventually compromise to keep the Dark Theme by allowing some cookies. If you didn't compromise, you would always be re-doing your settings for YouTube.

And as a bonus, you don't need an extension to get the Dark Theme in the new interface.

[groundhog2]

I would be great is the sidebar stayed collapsed. On my end it constantly reopens, I don't need it!

[New Tobin Paradigm]

So is this now the Material vs Polymer v1 YouTube Bitching Mega-Thread? Honestly.

EDIT: Here you go, please continue it there.. viewtopic.php?f=66&t=23762

[Night Wing]

This new YouTube is obnoxiously slow.

It is not slow for my almost 10 years old desktop tower computer. But there could be mitigating circumstances on your end that might make it slow. Some of them could be:

1) internet connection speed
2) your processor's speed
3) amount of memory
4) graphics card or chip in your computer
5) an extension which may be causing a problem

There is one YouTube video that I like and it is of a pre-recorded playlist of a Norwegian train driver's view. Since I have a 27" external monitor, I like to watch it in full screen mode and with a 1440p60 HD setting. And I have no problems with it. The link to this video is below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAYPAN35xgk

[back2themoon]

There is one YouTube video that I like... and I have no problems with it.

Slower speed is not related to watching videos, but browsing/loading various parts of the YT website. Anyway, a reasonably modern and powerful CPU/GPU combination should have no problems with it.

[LL25255252]

Low chances google decides to keep the "Classic" Youtube layout but in case that happens here are links for scripts & addons I use for this layout that some may find useful also.

Obviously you first need to install - YouTube Classic for 2018 (Polymer Disable) - https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/39405 ... er-disable

Then you can install :

- View Youtube videos by same user - https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/946-v ... -same-user
- Disable YouTube 60 FPS (Force 30 FPS) - https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/23329 ... rce-30-fps
- Open Youtube search results in new page - https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/947-o ... n-new-page
- YouTube Classic for 2018 (Polymer Disable) - https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/39405 ... override=9
- Youtube Peek Preview - https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/37075 ... ek-preview
- Youtube Video Ratings Bar with Power Meter - https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/2302- ... ower-meter
- Pale Moon - Add-ons - YouTube Lazy Load - https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/youtube-lazy-load/

- Video Pinner :: Add-ons for Firefox - https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-us/fi ... l-othersby
The link to "Video Pinner" addon is to a thunderbird addon page but if you download the xpi you can install it in Pale Moon.