Making the text in the titlebar go away

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Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by Hanna » 2019-12-31, 00:39

Text suddenly appeared in the title bar and I don't like it.
I searched and found a post from Moonchild back in 2014 about this, and implemented the suggested fix by changing userChrome.css. I added this snipped:

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#main-window::after {
  opacity: 0 !important;
}
Unfortunately it didn't work. What else could be causing the title to appear? I'm using the Hide Captions in Titlebar add-on, but I don't actually see any setting about hiding the captions in the titlebar... It's good for other things though.

Any advice appreciated. Here is what it looks like:

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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by coffeebreak » 2019-12-31, 01:14

That css works for me.

Maybe an extension interferes.

Try temporarily disabling Hide Captions in Titlebar to see if it conflicts.
And more generally, have you tried in safe mode?
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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by Pallid Planetoid » 2019-12-31, 02:01

Wouldn't setting the pref (in about:config) "browser.tabs.drawInTitlebar" to "true" (which I think is default) do the job of getting rid of the title-bar? It's what I've got in my configuration that would otherwise display the title-bar if set to "false".
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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by Frasier » 2019-12-31, 02:40

Did you include the line:

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@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");
at the top of the css file?

If all else fails you might give this old extension a try:
'customize_titlebar_v2 0.8'. It can be installed after installing https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive/releases
You'll want to disable/remove 'Hide Captions in Titlebar' first though.

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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by Konrad » 2019-12-31, 04:52

My Pale Moon runs in the “Tabs on Top” mode and I don’t see captions in the title bar since it is hidden in that mode. I use neither the “Hide Captions in Titlebar” add-on nor any special script for that.
Have a go without the add-on and script, just Tabs on Top.

By the way, there are two site icons in the address bar of your browser, is not this strange?

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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by Hanna » 2019-12-31, 11:22

coffeebreak wrote:
2019-12-31, 01:14
That css works for me.

Maybe an extension interferes.

Try temporarily disabling Hide Captions in Titlebar to see if it conflicts.
And more generally, have you tried in safe mode?
Thank you! I did that (disabled the Hide Captions...) add-in and the Text disappeared from the title bar. Good!

I noticed that the "New tab" tab, i.e. the one that you press to open a new tab, is also gone - shame!

And the tabs are a bit further down on the screen, wasting a little bit of space (but not much). Hide Captions had a functionality that actually let you play around with the exact placement of the tabs in the titlebar, moving them up and down a bit, and making the titlebar very slim.
This Hide Captions add-on is one that I ever used in Firefox, I just read about it here I think and installed it.

Konrad wrote:
2019-12-31, 04:52
My Pale Moon runs in the “Tabs on Top” mode and I don’t see captions in the title bar since it is hidden in that mode. I use neither the “Hide Captions in Titlebar” add-on nor any special script for that.
Have a go without the add-on and script, just Tabs on Top.

By the way, there are two site icons in the address bar of your browser, is not this strange?
Yeah, I had Tabs always on Top or something like that, in my own Firefox profile that I migrated to Pale Moon.

Haha, double Icons in address bar... Yes, that comes and goes! No idea what's causing it - probably an add-on. It's one of the little beauty defects I'm trying to sort out!

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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by Hanna » 2019-12-31, 11:28

coffeebreak wrote:
2019-12-31, 01:14
That css works for me.

Maybe an extension interferes.

Try temporarily disabling Hide Captions in Titlebar to see if it conflicts.
And more generally, have you tried in safe mode?
Thank you! I did that (disabled the Hide Captions...) add-in and the Text disappeared from the title bar. Good!

I noticed that the "New tab" tab, i.e. the one that you press to open a new tab, is also gone - shame!

And the tabs are a bit further down on the screen, wasting a little bit of space (but not much). Hide Captions had a functionality that actually let you play around with the exact placement of the tabs in the titlebar, moving them up and down a bit, and making the titlebar very slim.
This Hide Captions add-on is one that I ever used in Firefox, I just read about it here I think and installed it.

Konrad wrote:
2019-12-31, 04:52
My Pale Moon runs in the “Tabs on Top” mode and I don’t see captions in the title bar since it is hidden in that mode. I use neither the “Hide Captions in Titlebar” add-on nor any special script for that.
Have a go without the add-on and script, just Tabs on Top.

By the way, there are two site icons in the address bar of your browser, is not this strange?
Yeah, I had Tabs always on Top or something like that, in my own Firefox profile that I migrated to Pale Moon.

Haha, double Icons in address bar... Yes, that comes and goes! No idea what's causing it - probably an add-on. It's one of the little beauty defects I'm trying to sort out!
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Frasier wrote:
2019-12-31, 02:40
Did you include the line:

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@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");
at the top of the css file?

If all else fails you might give this old extension a try:
'customize_titlebar_v2 0.8'. It can be installed after installing https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive/releases
You'll want to disable/remove 'Hide Captions in Titlebar' first though.
Thank you! I will try the old add-on that you recommend, for sure. Hid Captions in Titlebar is now disabled.... Strange add-on that one; it doesn't actually do what the title says, but tons of other things!

I do have the Namespace snipped as the first entry in the userChrome.css file, so that was not the trouble.

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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by srazzano » 2020-01-01, 08:33

You can try this add-on I made for my personal use, Additional Toolbars Plus (additional-toolbars-plus-PM57.1.4.xpi), on my site https://sonco.synthasite.com/pale-moon.php
It eliminates the titlebar with tons of other options. The settings icon will probably be in the Customize Toolbar Palette
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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-01-01, 08:59

I would think twice before using his extensions due to past issues. Merely beware.
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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by srazzano » 2020-01-01, 09:24

@New Tobin Paradigm

Download it for yourself and if there is an issue, ban/remove me from the forum or whatever you wish.
I remember past issues with yourself, but your still posting.

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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by Admin » 2020-01-01, 11:29

Let's not start the new year with a bitch fight just because someone warns about your extensions with good reason, eh?
Did you know that moral outrage triggers the pleasure centers of the brain? It's unlikely you can actually get addicted to outrage, but there is plausible evidence that you can become strongly predisposed to it.
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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by 1210_bex » 2020-01-05, 06:26

Admin wrote:
2020-01-01, 11:29
Let's not start the new year with a bitch fight just because someone warns about your extensions with good reason, eh?
For those of us 'not in the know', I can't determine if the complaints and warnings refer to the author as a person, or to his programs.

is Additional Toolbars Plus safe to use? Is it well sorted?

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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by Hanna » 2020-01-05, 12:09

1210_bex wrote:
2020-01-05, 06:26
is Additional Toolbars Plus safe to use? Is it well sorted?

Harry
I ended up not using it, it was probably incompatible with other add-ons that I had.
As long as you back up your profile before you try anything that you think might mess up your setup, you're good - so no need for any drama. Not everything works for everyone. This particular add-on introduced some dramatic changes which were not what I wanted, so I removed it. But it might be worth trying again in the future - I am just very conscious that I already spent more time than I should, at setting up my Pale Moon.
Sometime when I have more time at my hand, I'll experiment a bit more.

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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by Moonchild » 2020-01-05, 15:01

1210_bex wrote:
2020-01-05, 06:26
is Additional Toolbars Plus safe to use? Is it well sorted?
Considering the track record of his extensions (both in how they were sourced and the problems caused by them) I'd say it's risky at least. it may work or it may not. It may cause seemingly unrelated issues with the UI or other extensions or do unexpected or undesirable things. If it works for you, good, but I wouldn't vouch for the safety or functionality of his extensions. They were removed from our add-ons site after deliberation for solid reasons, so using them is (more so than usual) at your own risk.
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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-01-05, 19:10

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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by 1210_bex » 2020-01-05, 19:19

Moonchild & Hanna:

Thanks for the feedback. I'll take a pass on Additional Toolbars Plus.


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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by MoonMadness » 2020-03-24, 14:45

I currently hide the text with usrChrome.css. However is there a way to use the system font in Windows, instead of Trubechet MS?
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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by MoonMadness » 2020-03-29, 22:47

Actually let me revisit that. I removed the usrChrome.css line which was

#main-window:after {
display:none !important;
}

The font is bold, black Segoe UI. My system font is white Segoe UI. Can the title bar simply use the system title bar font?

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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by back2themoon » 2020-03-29, 23:31

About the font, asked and answered here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=23064&p=176123#p176111

About selecting what appears in the titlebar (including nothing), install customize titlebar v2 0.8. Yes, the version numbers are weird. It works.
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Re: Making the text in the titlebar go away

Post by MoonMadness » 2020-03-30, 16:59

Thank you very much. I'm going to try to this out momentarily.

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