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Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by cartel » 2019-11-19, 23:07

Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9e4mQ3xots


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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by ron_1 » 2019-11-19, 23:15

I got a message saying the content was rated TV-14 and that logging in was necessary. Can't test any further as I don't have any Google account.

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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by moonbat » 2019-11-19, 23:26

The video is geographically restricted as well. Not available for me.
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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by Sessh » 2019-11-19, 23:28

Geographically blocked for me as well though I'm using a VPN. I found another video of this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0UZNr6AsU4

.. but it is out of sync by about a second and has spanish (I think?) subtitles. If you downloaded it and you use VLC, you can adjust the sync in VLC to line it up properly. Just proposing an alternative.

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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by RJARRRPCGP » 2019-11-19, 23:44

The first message mentioned by the OP, means most likely a problem with the browser codec settings. IIRC, usually because H.264 isn't enabled.

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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by cartel » 2019-11-20, 00:00

I think its DRM, which can go to hell.
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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by ron_1 » 2019-11-20, 00:53

I've never heard of Youtube having any DRM content, so that would be a new one to me.

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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by coffeebreak » 2019-11-20, 06:11

cartel wrote:
2019-11-20, 00:00
I think its DRM
Yes, it's DRM.
In Firefox with DRM off, YouTube throws up an infobar that says it has to be enabled for that video.

ron_1 wrote:
2019-11-20, 00:53
I've never heard of Youtube having any DRM content, so that would be a new one to me.
It's required for "free to play" videos in the "YouTube Movies" channel. (see here and following posts)

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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2019-11-20, 07:25

Makes sense that they would start using Widevine for their movie rentals.. Given MSE's audio and video splitting isn't any kind of barrier against downloads to the point of it being one touch now especially with the right extension or web service. That and Google spent a lot of money not only buying Widevine but also to push EME and crush Adobe Primetime so they could monopolize it on every level.

Browser (Google Chrome), Standard (pushed by Google), service (YouTube is owned by Google), technology (Widevine is owned by Google), you.. You are also owned by Google or will be shortly.

Still, I blame the users of all or any of those plus all the intellectual property thieves who were in those Youtube downloader threads. You ALL did this and are ALL responsible. Even my self. I also share in the responsibility.

The real question is.. What are ANY of us gonna do about it? Hmm?

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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by gepus » 2019-11-20, 09:54

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2019-11-20, 07:25
The real question is.. What are ANY of us gonna do about it? Hmm?
No Google account and no Chrome or any of its forks here (not even for testing).

I know that my stance is unacceptable for the overwhelming majority but then they get what they are asking for...

Most people are complaining about Google's dictatorship but in the meantime are strengthening it by using their products.
Aren't we human a strange species? :)

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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2019-11-20, 10:00

gepus wrote:
2019-11-20, 09:54
Most people are complaining about Google's dictatorship but in the meantime are strengthening it by using their products.
Aren't we human a strange species? :)
Indeed you all are and before you ask, yes, but only because of a minor technicality.

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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by Moonchild » 2019-11-20, 10:54

gepus wrote:
2019-11-20, 09:54
Most people are complaining about Google's dictatorship but in the meantime are strengthening it by using their products.
Aren't we human a strange species? :)
Complaining about something is easy and takes no real effort. Making a change however requires people to actually do something and put in effort, which isn't a "fire and forget" action. Humans love one-shot solutions to anything. Complaining is that, making a change is not.

And there you have it.
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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by moonbat » 2019-11-20, 12:29

Moonchild wrote:
2019-11-20, 10:54
Complaining about something is easy and takes no real effort. Making a change however requires people to actually do something and put in effort, which isn't a "fire and forget" action. Humans love one-shot solutions to anything. Complaining is that, making a change is not.
In this case however, mass change is what is needed, and that seems unlikely. The small bunch of privacy conscious power users may stop using Google but the rest remain willfully unaware of the problem, or in a few cases, outright say they don't care if Google or other companies track them online. So a tiny fraction of people moving away won't really make a difference to them.
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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by Moonchild » 2019-11-20, 14:18

And thus the complaining will continue but nothing will happen, because of what I already said :)
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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by adesh » 2019-11-20, 14:56

moonbat wrote:
2019-11-20, 12:29
The small bunch of privacy conscious power users may stop using Google but the rest remain willfully unaware of the problem
No, the problem is that even privacy conscious users also will not leave Google. They will also give the same excuse that you are giving. People are reasonable and find a way to justify their choices instead of making a change which is better for everyone (and not selfish).

Sorry Moonchild, I mostly repeated you but with different words. Had to say it!

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No Google account and no Chrome or any of its forks here (not even for testing).
Same here bro!
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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by johnb » 2019-11-21, 06:30

Plays just fine with IE11.
Does not play with PM or Basilisk-- even with HTML5 addon.
What's up with that? Thx.

PS. got goog acct with protonmail & vpn. fyi

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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by coffeebreak » 2019-11-21, 06:42

johnb wrote:
2019-11-21, 06:30
What's up with that?
The video requires DRM. See earlier post.

(A bunch of off-topic posts come after that one, making it easy to overlook. But then, that's why it matters to read entire threads rather than just the last bit.)

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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by athenian200 » 2019-11-21, 13:42

johnb wrote:
2019-11-21, 06:30
Plays just fine with IE11.
Does not play with PM or Basilisk-- even with HTML5 addon.
What's up with that? Thx.
I believe I heard somewhere (could be wrong) that IE11 uses PlayReady DRM instead of Widevine on many sites. It's possible that IE is still popular enough on older Windows installations for Google to support PlayReady DRM, especially since IE is on the way out. What I do know is that, whether they just don't require DRM or use Microsoft's, several sites that otherwise require Widevine will work in IE without it. I've been taking advantage of that and using IE to avoid Widevine in a last-ditch effort that won't be possible for a lot longer. After that stops working, I'll just have to avoid DRM entirely like everyone else who is actually bothered by things like this.

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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by coffeebreak » 2019-11-21, 15:59

athenian200 wrote:
2019-11-21, 13:42
I heard somewhere (could be wrong) that IE11 uses PlayReady DRM instead of Widevine on many sites. It's possible that IE is still popular enough on older Windows installations for Google to support PlayReady DRM, especially since IE is on the way out. What I do know is that, whether they just don't require DRM or use Microsoft's, several sites that otherwise require Widevine will work in IE without it.
Ah. Is it possible to turn DRM on/off in IE11?
If so, someone who has it installed (I don't) could check, at least partially, by trying the video with DRM off.

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Re: Anyone else getting this? Is it DRM?

Post by RJARRRPCGP » 2019-11-21, 18:22

I just hope it don't spread to UGC, as the DRM considered a weapon to ban PaleMoon. :thumbdown:
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Of course, if it was from "big-TV-content", I would have expected DRM, as if it were Netflix.....

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