vs Nightly x64?

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vs Nightly x64?

Unread post by Caspid » 2011-10-21, 05:52

Would love to see some benchmarks comparing it to the latest 64-bit Nightly. or even just the current Firefox.

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Re: vs Nightly x64?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2011-10-21, 09:20

You can't compare the nightlies with Pale Moon. It's apples and oranges!
In addition, Pale Moon x64 is still not fully optimized the way it should be - due to MSVC compiler problems.
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Re: vs Nightly x64?

Unread post by Caspid » 2011-10-21, 20:31

I've never understood the apples and oranges thing - they're both fruits, why can't you compare em?
PM & Nightly are both browsers, so you can at least compare browser functions, like Tom's Hardware does.

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Re: vs Nightly x64?

Unread post by megaman » 2011-10-21, 23:33

Caspid wrote:I've never understood the apples and oranges thing - they're both fruits, why can't you compare em?
PM & Nightly are both browsers, so you can at least compare browser functions, like Tom's Hardware does.
Alright, why not? Moonchild explained this to you.
Your response gives a point, they both clearly are fruits, but they are still 2 different fruits.
A square and a circle, they both are shapes, but they are still are 2 different shapes.

Should we still take a crack at it? Sure, but you could also do the same. The arsenal is at your disposal. :)

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Re: vs Nightly x64?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2011-10-22, 18:35

It's just a saying in English, meaning you can't (shouldn't) compare 2 things that are clearly of a different class. You would get a skewed image in your results and any conclusions you draw from it are bound to be misinformed or unfounded.
MSIE 6 and Pale Moon 6 are both "version 6 browsers" but in a completely different class (re: html supported, performance, age of code, etc.), to compare.
Nightlies build on unstable code that has a lot of experimental features; they will have better performance in a number of areas, but are prone to crashes, hangups, and incompatibilities. Some nightly builds won't even start, period. If you want to compare that with a release-grade browser that does not have those features, you are not making a fair comparison. Such a comparison is currently not even possible since Firefox 7.0.1-release doesn't come in 64-bit.

In addition, benchmarks don't give a full picture. They test a subset of browser function and usually in a way that cannot be called "real life use scenarios".
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Re: vs Nightly x64?

Unread post by lewisje » 2011-11-08, 21:37

Also, more importantly, Nightly is three versions ahead of Pale Moon and much less stable.