new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

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new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by oldurkey » 2018-10-11, 13:41

Windows 7, 32-bit. Only older versions will work, though they are riddled with minor problems, almost as if to say, "I'm not even trying. U ought to get the latest version!"

Well, the latest version is good ONCE. After install, I can use it until I log out, but that's it. Over the last 6 months, it has been like this. I'm surprised there aren't tons of complaints from Windows 7 users.

Even worse, I am trying to download Open Office, but it says I need to close Pale Moon, as it contains needed files for the set-up. How do I close something that won't open? I tried right-click, open new tab, window, or private window. Nothing. OO must read it as running even though it isn't visible. I hate to uninstall PM and lose data.

Help, please.

PS In downloading PM yet again, I'm getting an error mssg saying, "Manifest could not be found or there was a prob connecting to web supporter." What next!
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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by laozi » 2018-10-11, 15:24

............Hello too ;)
I use PM version 28.1.0 (32-bit) without any problem ! :thumbup:
my OS: windows 7 family edition 32b
I'm thinking more like a problem with your win 7
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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by satrow » 2018-10-11, 16:00

Sounds like *something* is running interference, likely your security software.

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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by 4td8s » 2018-10-11, 17:17

or maybe a problem with computer configuration (hardware)

PM 28.1.0 32bit seems to work okay with an old PC using an Intel Pentium D 945 CPU, 2 gigs of RAM and Win7 pro x86/32bit

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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by oldurkey » 2018-10-11, 17:28

If security software were the issue, I'd think it would be the same with older versions of PM. I'm no geek, not even close, so I can't say much, other than, if it's computer figuration, I'm not having problems anywhere else. Very odd.

Thanks.
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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by satrow » 2018-10-11, 18:19

You stated that you've had issues over the last 6 months, Pale Moon 28.x has only been available since mid-August so your problems began around the time of 27.9.0 being released (2018-04-17). Which security software are you using?

Can we have https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=49 of your browser and Windows setup, please?

oldurkey

Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by oldurkey » 2018-10-11, 18:46

Avg But, again, if security software is the issue, why isn't messing with chrome or firefox?

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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by yami_ » 2018-10-11, 19:50

It is possible for security software to misidentify either Pale Moon or one of its components as tampered or modified version of either Firefox or one of Firefox's components. This may lead to removal of components necessary for Pale Moon to run.

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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by Cassette » 2018-10-11, 23:05

oldurkey wrote:If security software were the issue, I'd think it would be the same with older versions of PM.
oldurkey wrote:Windows 7, 32-bit. Only older versions will work, though they are riddled with minor problems, almost as if to say, "I'm not even trying. U ought to get the latest version!"
I think they might be right. What is your security software?

yami_

Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by yami_ » 2018-10-12, 06:52

They already stayed it is AVG.

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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by pompste007 » 2018-10-15, 01:12

4td8s wrote:or maybe a problem with computer configuration (hardware)

PM 28.1.0 32bit seems to work okay with an old PC using an Intel Pentium D 945 CPU, 2 gigs of RAM and Win7 pro x86/32bit
Same here, PM 28.1.0 32 bit working okay with Windows 7 Pro on my backup PC running Intel Pentium D 945 CPU.
Good to know someone else still runs a "hot" Intel Pentium D 945 yet!
Had to install a big CPU cooler to keep it relatively cool.

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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by Burn_IT » 2018-10-15, 11:59

Works fine with my old Pentium M 279 32 bit 2Gb

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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by Henry » 2018-10-20, 11:13

Oldturkey, win 7 32 bit, 8 gigs ram. I installed one of the version 27's and it worked, it was quick. Then I was nagged into the update that ruined the browser, followed by all the promises that the next update would fix the 32 bit. When the software people start lying to cover their posterior, rather than fix the 32 bit problem, it's time to look for a new browser.

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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by yami_ » 2018-10-20, 11:50

Off-topic:
What is the point of having more RAM that your OS can handle?

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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by satrow » 2018-10-20, 11:58

Henry wrote:Oldturkey, win 7 32 bit, 8 gigs ram. I installed one of the version 27's and it worked, it was quick. Then I was nagged into the update that ruined the browser, followed by all the promises that the next update would fix the 32 bit. When the software people start lying to cover their posterior, rather than fix the 32 bit problem, it's time to look for a new browser.
Your Bio and content here aren't conducive to a reasoned discussion, no helpful troubleshooting info given so there's no advice we can give other than 'READ the STICKIES and supply some details'. If you aren't prepared to do that, there's little point in you using any 'non-mainstream' software - round pegs and square holes...

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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by Burn_IT » 2018-10-20, 13:07

What is the point of having more RAM that your OS can handle?
Because some programs bypass the BIOS and do their own thing.
Also file handlers tend to use the extra memory for buffering.

Also there is the fact that the official figures are seldom accurate.
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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by therube » 2018-10-22, 15:32

Because some programs bypass the BIOS and do their own thing.
Such as?
Also file handlers tend to use the extra memory for buffering.
And how do they bypass limits set by system/OS architectures?
Also there is the fact that the official figures are seldom accurate.
Which figures are that?
Manufacture's numbers as to how much RAM a particular system/OS can support?
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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by Tomaso » 2018-10-22, 16:05

Moonchild wrote:
System requirements for UXP applications (Win):

To take away any confusion about the minimum system requirements for all UXP applications on Windows, here they are:
  • A processor with SSE2 support (won't run on ancient toasters)
  • Windows 7 or later with service packs and updates applied.
    Windows Vista is NOT supported.
  • 1GB of RAM
  • At least 200 MB of HDD space to install and run -- more definitely advised
  • A graphics chip or card with at least 256MB of VRAM available
Source:
viewtopic.php?f=62&t=19790/
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Re: new PM incompatible with windows 7, 32 bit

Unread post by yami_ » 2018-10-22, 17:16

Off-topic:
This applies only to computers that use CPUs based on x86 ISA.
therube wrote:Such as?
There are no such programs. BIOS does not control RAM. The only hardware limitations that can forbid you from using more than 4 GB of RAM are: not having more than 4 GB RAM, having a chipset that is limited to 32-bit addressing and having a CPU that does not support PAE.
therube wrote:And how do they by pass limits set by system/OS architectures?
No userspace program can bypass the limit set by the OS and no OS can bypass the limit set by the hardware it is running on.

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