Pale Moon x64 28.0/28.1 tragically very bad performance

[RMK99]

Hello, the creator, someone is working on patches for Pale Moon ?

For some time, Pale Moon has had a tragically very bad performance.

After several months of testing, Pale Moon behaves like an early alpha.

Youtube works not smoothly, i.e. like in 15fps. On Firefox youtube runs smoothly 60fps.

Many sites are lagging, especially where there is a lot of photos, and the browser itself will freeze up for a few seconds.

Adding tweaks from Firefox minimally improves the situation, which does not change the fact that Pale Moon after starting over 1.5GB od ram starts to work very slowly. And it eats up to 3.5 GB on many pages.

OS: Windows 10 1803 x64
PC: 6700k 4,6GHz + 16GB DDR 3600MHz CL14 + Samsung SSD NVME.
Palme Moon x64 28.01 x64 + Ublock Origin Legacy + NoScript.
Optical fiber 300mb/s

[Night Wing]

Well, I've got four computers, all different models and I dual boot both linux and windows Pale Moon on nine different hard drives. And Pale Moon 28.0.1 runs very quick on all of my four computers. All the websites I visit on a daily basis, which includes YouTube, render properly without any slowness, hangs or freezes. In fact, Pale Moon runs faster than Firefox 62.0 on all of my computers.

So what have you tried "on your own" to fix your problem(s)?

[Isengrim]

I am not experiencing any of the issues you describe on any of my computers. Have you tried experimenting with Safe Mode or a new temporary profie?

Can you post some links to the sites you are experiencing these problems on?

[rabnbeinn]

I notice op is using No Script, just a thought!

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=17619

[Moonchild]

Pale Moon 28.1 has not been released yet. Please be accurate when you report issues because version numbers are very important!
28.0.0 is not the same as 28.0.0.1 which is not the same as 28.0.1 and the upcoming 28.1.0 will be different as well.

As for your issues: as mentioned you're using NoScript. This extension causes known issues (including crashes and other run-time problems) and we cannot provide support with it installed.

[4td8s]

if OP is using Noscript and is experiencing major slowdowns, he should remove it and switch to using ScriptBlock

I don't know if there are any other alternatives to Noscript for Palemoon
on my PC, Noscript 5.1.8.7 has not slowed down Palemoon 28.0.1 on my PCs

[therube]

If OP is using NoScript and if he feels it is contributing to his issue, he should remove it & test that way.

But then you might say, disable all extensions (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode), to rule out an extension issue (well, mostly).

Until you know what the cause is, no real point in substituting something new into the picture.

[doofy]

I don't know if there are any other alternatives to Noscript for Palemoon

uMatrix is so much better

[basicuser]

RMK99 and 4td8s,

Give "Toggle JavaScript" (found in PM's add-ons) a try instead of NoScript. I surf with JavaScript disabled and find ~90% of sites I visit work well enough without it, YMMV. When you do need JavaScript though, it's only a click away.

Hope this helps.

[porotikos]

id like to hijack this thread, as i also have very very bad performance. and i am not using noscript. especially in facebook, the performance is abysmal
any suggestions? if 28.0.1 works well for you guys, then there must be some problem with my pale moon? and i love it

[therube]

id like to hijack

Why? Just what in your situation relates to the dearth of details provided by the OP?

Many sites are lagging, especially where there is a lot of photos

URLs?

[porotikos]

id like to hijack

Why? Just what in your situation relates to the dearth of details provided by the OP?

i found only one thread that states that 28.0.1 is slow.
and i thought that it would be bad to start another thread that says the browser is suddenly slow.
when i am in facebook, and try to like a post (add the hearts button for instance), it never does that. it opens a window of who loved the post. facebook page loads very very slow. and gets stuck. other pages load faster than facebook, but overall performance is bad... i was sure it was a bad version and was waiting for an update, but now i read that probably it is on my end.
addons i use

tab mix plus
ublock origin
tab control
session manager
s.3 google translator
roomy bookmarks
restartless restart
reload all
pdf viewer (though pdf files never work on pale moon unfortunately)
muter
mega
google search link fix
foobar controls
febe
empty cache button
download statusbar fixed
cookies manager+
complete youtube saver
colorful tabs
check4change

if someone things i should create a new thread, ill happily do it.
i have 8 giga of ram in my pc btw
ps. deleted cache (no change)
entered safe mode (no change)

[fillerup]

probably not related, but mega addon is known to wreck performance

[porotikos]

probably not related, but mega addon is known to wreck performance

thank you, ill permanently disable it. but since i had same issues in safe mode, with all addons disabled, this must not be the problem?

[yereverluvinuncleber]

probably not related, but mega addon is known to wreck performance

thank you, ill permanently disable it. but since i had same issues in safe mode, with all addons disabled, this must not be the problem?

Perhaps post some specs, version numbers &c 32/64 bit &c and possibly in your own post so as not to hijack (which you did very well)

PM runs really fast for me in 32 bit mode on an old core2duo 2.5ghz. I couldn't be more pleased! If your system is more powerful than mine and runs slowly then step by step diagnose the issue, start to get help with your own thread detailing all that we will need to assist.

[gepus]

but since i had same issues in safe mode, with all addons disabled, this must not be the problem?

Addons can interfere even if they are disabled.
Settings might get permanently written to prefs.js and some of them can interfere even after uninstalling the addon.
A new profile should solve the problem. However the easiest and best way to test would be a fresh install of the portable version. You don't have to touch your existing install and after testing you can simply delete the folder containing your portable install.
Do you run an Antivirus which also could interfere with Pale Moon?

[porotikos]

Perhaps post some specs, version numbers &c 32/64 bit &c and possibly in your own post so as not to hijack (which you did very well)

PM runs really fast for me in 32 bit mode on an old core2duo 2.5ghz. I couldn't be more pleased! If your system is more powerful than mine and runs slowly then step by step diagnose the issue, start to get help with your own thread detailing all that we will need to assist.

thank you my friend. i will start my own thread very soon, after i start a little experiment with new profile. i am suspecting that perhaps after many years i run palemoon, some settings mess up with it.

but since i had same issues in safe mode, with all addons disabled, this must not be the problem?

Addons can interfere even if they are disabled.
Settings might get permanently written to prefs.js and some of them can interfere even after uninstalling the addon.
A new profile should solve the problem. However the easiest and best way to test would be a fresh install of the portable version. You don't have to touch your existing install and after testing you can simply delete the folder containing your portable install.
Do you run an Antivirus which also could interfere with Pale Moon?

will start asap with a portable profile. use febe to restore addons etc to that profile (apart from settings)and see if i am ok. if so, ill delete my profile and start from scratch. if nothing happens ill post my new thread.


again thank you all, mostly for advising me that the problem is on my end. i should have visited the forums sooner. much sooner. since i had such serious problems

[porotikos]

problem solved. the huge problem came with the mega addon.
now i will only need to fix pdf issues with palemoon and i am done!!! woohooo. cheers guys

[doofy]

now i will only need to fix pdf issues with palemoon and i am done!!!

https://www.tracker-software.com/produc ... nge-viewer

[fillerup]

look at that, another satisfied customer

now i will only need to fix pdf issues with palemoon and i am done

moon pdf viewer isn't working atm, use this as replacement

https://github.com/IsaacSchemm/pdf.js-s ... y/releases