EMET and PM compatibility

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EMET and PM compatibility

Unread post by MRCS4 » 2018-08-19, 23:47

If I have any exploit enabled, including any of the Mitigation Settings at the top right, PM will not run. Because PM is so security conscience, I am not overly concerned about it.

I was always leaning towards some protection mechanism blocking PM, rather than a 'memory inflation issue'. Although, this still could be the underlying incompatibility, without it being a PM bug. Initially I had thought that EMET was too old and no longer being maintained, but that was not the case. I updated to 5.52 from 5.50 and it didn't make any difference.

I can't believe that PM violates every exploit, so that leads me to believe there is some fundamental incompatibility. Mostly I am just curious as to what it could be. Perhaps Moonchild, or someone else, can shed some light on this.

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Re: EMET and PM compatibility

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Re: EMET and PM compatibility

Unread post by Cassette » 2018-08-20, 00:21

5.52 was released nearly two years ago.

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Re: EMET and PM compatibility

Unread post by Nigaikaze » 2018-08-20, 02:30

Cassette wrote:5.52 was released nearly two years ago.
And as of a few weeks ago, it's EOL.

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Re: EMET and PM compatibility

Unread post by MRCS4 » 2018-08-20, 06:08

helloimustbegoing, thanks for the link.
"It clashes with Pale Moon's internal safeguards"
That's good enough, and I thought/hoped it might be something like that. If PM doesn't like other software that could be malware hooking into it, I consider that a good thing. I removed PM from the EMET applications list and now everybody is happy again.

Btw, just because software is old or EOL doesn't mean it's no longer any good. In fact, I usually stop upgrading when an application starts becoming bloatware or the "new & improved" version is net negative on what's better over what's worse (of course that's very much an individualized decision). Skype, for instance, has a long history of this. Unfortunately, they make you update after a certain point in time.

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