Palemoon's version number is preventing lots of add-ons

[Abdulrhman Ayman]

The latest Palemoon's version number (27) is VERY LATE when compared to the latest Firefox's version number (61) which is preventing lots of add-ons from installation due to addons.mozilla.org policy, some of 'em might be compatible I guess (non-webextension).
I suggest that Palemoon's version numbers to be aligned with Firefox's to prevent this inconvenient.

Respectfully

[Edit: I'm aware that I can install 'em manually, still inconvenient for some.]
[Edit2: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... r-firefox/ ]

[ron_1]

As been said before, Pale Moon is not Firefox and never will be again.

Tell us what add-ons are giving you trouble. (And if they are web extensions, it won't matter what Pale Moon's version number is; Pale Moon will never support web extensions.)

[Abdulrhman Ayman]

As been said before, Pale Moon is not Firefox and never will be again.

Tell us what add-ons are giving you trouble. (And if they are web extensions, it won't matter what Pale Moon's version number is; Pale Moon will never support web extensions.)

Why? what's wrong with web extensions? Nobody said anything about turning Palemoon into another Firefox, it's just the version numbers.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... r-firefox/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... oduct-icon

[Nigaikaze]

I suggest that Palemoon's version numbers to be aligned with Firefox's to prevent this inconvenient.

Nope. Pale Moon serves that version number to AMO for specific reasons. Firefox 28 introduced the australis user interface which has not (and will not) be implemented in Pale Moon. Some extensions that are written for Firefox 28+ expect that user interface, and thus will have problems functioning properly when installed in Pale Moon.

[Nigaikaze]

Why? what's wrong with web extensions?

WebExtensions
We will not be supporting WebExtensions of any kind in Pale Moon. Our current extension technologies provide all the features, functionality and above all API access for any extension to do anything it has to, including the limited subset that is offered by WebExtensions.

Source: http://www.palemoon.org/roadmap.shtml

[therube]

You could try the older pre-webextension versions (found on the Versions) page, & see if they might (or might not) work?

(Test in a test Profile.)

[LAR Grizzly]

You can change the user agent override for AMO:

general.useragent.override.addons.mozilla.org

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/61.0

This will not let you install WebExtensions, it will just let you see all available extensions on AMO.

[Goodydino]

I was able to install Firefox extensions into Pale Moon by addiing the Pale Moon-specific information into install.rdf in the .xpi files. I just used that information from one of the Pale Moon themes. It looks like this:

<em:targetApplication>
<!-- Pale Moon -->
<Description>
<em:id>{8de7fcbb-c55c-4fbe-bfc5-fc555c87dbc4}</em:id>
<em:minVersion>27.5.0</em:minVersion>
<em:maxVersion>29.*</em:maxVersion>
</Description>
</em:targetApplication>

[endemion]

Doesn't "Moon Tester Tool" add-on help with the issue the TS talks about?

[ron_1]

endemion wrote:
Doesn't "Moon Tester Tool" add-on help with the issue the TS talks about?

It does, potentially, but not if the add-ons are web extensions (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

Also, from its webpage:

Warning! Moon Tester Tool is intended for advanced users and for test purposes only!

Installation of improper extensions or themes may break the browser and lead to the damage or loss of data. You can't expect or ask for any support of extensions and themes installed via Moon Tester Tool neither from their authors, nor from developers of the browser.

BTW, what does TS stand for? I assume you mean OP?

[Nigaikaze]

It does, potentially, but not if the add-ons are web extensions (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

Yeah, that's my understanding as well, so I believe you are correct.

BTW, what does TS stand for?

Topic Starter or Thread Starter, I believe. So yeah, OP.

[endemion]

As far as I know, the "Moon Tester Tool" allows you to basically install any Firefox add-on but if it isn't compatible Pale Moon will let you know with a failed installation instead of you being prevented to even download/try the add-on that may work even though the website doesn't recognize your browser as compatible.

TS = Topic Starter it's a bit more broad a term than OP (Opening Post) which only refers to the first post.

[ron_1]

But if the add-on is a web extension, it's a waste of time. Pale Moon does not support web extensions.

I've always used OP to mean original poster.

[ron_1]

I just downloaded the two add-ons the OP linked to (didn't install, of course). They are web extensions, so he needs to either A) use an earlier version that isn't web extensions (if available), or B) find replacement add-ons that aren't web extensions. Choice "A" may not be feasible since they are security add-ons.

[therube]

Why? what's wrong with web extensions? Nobody said anything about turning Palemoon into another Firefox, it's just the version numbers.

Oh, & if that is your thinking, "just version numbers", then no, that is entirely wrong.
Webextensions are much different from Legacy extensions, using API's that do not exist at all in older FF (so also not in PM), & internally they are different too, like having no install.rdf (which would be required for older FF/PM), so no, it is not "just version numbers".


B, is an option in both instances.
Backup & test.
(Better to test in a separate "test" Profile.)

[ArchieLukas]

WebExtensions
We will not be supporting WebExtensions of any kind in Pale Moon.

Our current extension technologies provide all the features, functionality and above all API access for any extension to do anything it has to, including the limited subset that is offered by WebExtensions.

BUT, it doesn't in reality does it? I cannot get DTA to work in PM28 or my gestures and there are no other working extensions

[doofy]

I cannot get DTA to work in PM28

3.0.8

[endemion]

WebExtensions
We will not be supporting WebExtensions of any kind in Pale Moon.

Our current extension technologies provide all the features, functionality and above all API access for any extension to do anything it has to, including the limited subset that is offered by WebExtensions.

BUT, it doesn't in reality does it? I cannot get DTA to work in PM28 or my gestures and there are no other working extensions

That's basically what I said elsewhere. There are only so many compromised one is willing to make. Pale moon is in my opinion too small to move so far away from Firefox that it doesn't support Firefox extensions anymore (as in web extensions support required).

[doofy]

That's basically what I said elsewhere. There are only so many compromised one is willing to make. Pale moon is in my opinion too small to move so far away from Firefox that it doesn't support Firefox extensions anymore (as in web extensions support required).

I see Waterfox in your future

[gepus]

BUT, it doesn't in reality does it? I cannot get DTA to work in PM28 or my gestures and there are no other working extensions

No need to yell.

If by "gestures" you mean mouse gestures, Mouse Gestures Suite legacy extension works fine with Pale Moon 28. It is far superior compared to its web extension counterpart.