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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby fillerup » Tue, 21 Aug 2018, 06:19

doofy wrote:And its odd you mention the new favicon, cos the icon never changed for on PM27, but its there on 28

this has happened to me on both Windows and Linux, in both 27 and 28. Pale Moon (along with other Firefox based browsers e.g. Basilisk and Waterfox) are served a blurry, pixelated version of the orange Reddit favicon, whereas Chrome based browsers are served a high resolution version of the same favicon.

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will address your other points when i have more time
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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby back2themoon » Tue, 21 Aug 2018, 07:43

There's also a positive compatibility after-effect: some extensions (usually more recent ones) that were not compatible with PM27 will now work fine with PM28. Tab Badge is an example.
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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby Phantom » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 13:52

No problems here. I have it updated on two computers. So far so good.

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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby fillerup » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 14:33

doofy wrote:I get no noticeable lagging at all on reddit in 27.9.4 or 28 and I have 100 posts per page. (200 comments per page).

hmm.. it's not lag per se, but when you compare scrolling performance side by side with other browsers you may notice slight stuttering during each scroll step, whereas other browsers scroll smoothly at 60fps

doofy wrote:But you also say that reddit is "content heavy". Here, it simply isn't. Here, its pretty much on a par with this site for basic lightweight functionality. Using RES, uB0 and uMatrix, I've removed nearly all bells and whistles, never use subreddit style, and have a simple, quiet, grey theme.

yes, i browse some css intensive subs, for example sport subs where each user has a flair/logo of their team next to their name

doofy wrote:I've finally managed to revert the icon in PM28 with a userscript.

can you please link me to this script?

doofy wrote:Not sure if its of any value - but RES 5.4.3 works in PM 28 without MTT.

nice find, i upgraded to 5.4.3 myself

doofy wrote:So if you're getting laggy reddit with a fresh profile, the next question is what "security/privacy" extensions/software are you running? Current "usual suspect" is malwarebytes but personally I reckon any AV (or similar) "web protection" is awful.

i run zero external AV/antimalware, and scrolling performance is the same whether i'm using my 40+ addon setup or testing on a brand new profile.

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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby doofy » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 15:55

fillerup wrote:can you please link me to this script?

Nope. It's not online. I'll paste it below. I got the code and icon from here which then links the attribution further back.

I then added the top stuff. Note: the icon is hosted by god knows who on imgur, so you might want to d/l it and host it yourself somewhere.

Tested on PM 28 in Greasemonkey, and FF 61 in Violentmonkey and it works fine.

One obvious glitch here: on browser launch, the icons are new ones. It takes a few page refreshes to reset them. Maybe thats greasemonkey being slow to wake up to the fact its being asked to do something, maybe its a prob in the code, maybe how the icon is hosted; I have no idea. All I know is that once set, they stay set - on all tabs, bookmarks, identity box - and thats good enough for me.

So if you have flawless behaviour on PM 28, then you might not want it, but its worth keeping somewhere as insurance.

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// ==UserScript==
// @name     Old Reddit Favicon
// @include  https://*.reddit.com/*
// @grant    none
// ==/UserScript==

(function() {
  var link = document.querySelector("link[rel*='icon']") || document.createElement('link');
  link.type = 'image/x-icon';
  link.rel = 'shortcut icon';
  link.href = 'https://i.imgur.com/veJX9o5.png';
  document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(link);
})();

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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby fillerup » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 16:54

doofy wrote:snip

good stuff, thank you - the update to RES 5.4.3 actually broke the favicon function so i'm glad to have this solution
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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby doofy » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 17:04

fillerup wrote:the update to RES 5.8.4 actually broke the favicon function so i'm glad to have this solution

That answers that one, then. Good to know, thx. A small part of me wonders why on earth that should be the case, but the rest simply accepts it and moves on.

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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby doofy » Sat, 25 Aug 2018, 15:52

fillerup wrote:the update to RES 5.4.3 actually broke the favicon function so i'm glad to have this solution

How's it working for you? Since stating categorically that it works, I've tested it exhaustively and find variable, buggy behaviour. Which I've now solved.

If its working properly for you, fine. If not, report back and I'll provide full info.

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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby fillerup » Sun, 26 Aug 2018, 04:07

doofy wrote:How's it working for you? Since stating categorically that it works, I've tested it exhaustively and find variable, buggy behaviour. Which I've now solved.

If its working properly for you, fine. If not, report back and I'll provide full info.

i don't use RES features as extensively as you so nothing much to report. only thing that may qualify as a bug is that for a lot of posts, there are two icons for the inline image/video viewer instead of just one

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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby tor000 » Tue, 28 Aug 2018, 09:55

Upgraded PM portable to version 28.0.0.1:
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Also, PM portable 28.0.0.1 still have slow responding, stops responding often, and behaves like it is about to crash:
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Fresh and clean PM portable 28.0.0.1:

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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby hujan86 » Fri, 31 Aug 2018, 00:54

I've also noticed my DeviantArt notifications now loads normally, unlike before with v27 which often gave me a blank page. I'm happy with v28.
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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby fillerup » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 08:11

JustOff wrote:
fillerup wrote:- a third crucial extension that i rely on is also completely broken on PM 28: Hide Caption Titlebar Plus 4.0.7. it hides the titlebar but not the page title, it cuts off part of the actual browser (looks as if it's stretched out beyond the screen), and none of the other features work. downgrading to 2.8.6.1 works, but that old version lacks the modern looking max/min/close buttons that don't look like they came from the previous century.

Does Hide Caption Titlebar Plus 4.0.7 ever work with 27.x? I personally use 2.8.6.1 for a long time already.

Hide Caption Titlebar Plus was just updated to 4.1.0 and works perfectly with PM 28.0.1 (despite still requiring manual install). huge thanks to the dev if you're reading this!

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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby tor000 » Sat, 08 Sep 2018, 09:59

Pale Moon works OK without problems, after updating it to 28.0.1
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Re: PM 28.0.0 impressions/addon compatbility discussion

Unread postby fillerup » Sun, 09 Sep 2018, 08:07

couple of notification bugs i noticed:

- clicking on one doesn't direct you to the associated tab (TST bug?)

- nothing happens when clicking on 'Notification settings'


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