GMX webmail interface

coffeebreak · Post by **coffeebreak** » 2016-07-22, 15:31

Davesnothere wrote:I also seem to recall reading elsewhere that PM v27 drops support for XP - Is that true ?

Yes.

The Future of Pale Moon

Which browser would you use if you had to remain with XP?

Ghasket · Post by **Ghasket** » 2016-07-23, 06:57

Trippynet wrote:Hmm, this trick worked for me for some time, but as of today, the "Poseidon" bit has disappeared from the URL, and signing into GMX is broken, even with the normal URL. Outstanding

Same here..Poseidon is no longer in the URL now (did they get hip to our trick or something..?) so there is now no way to use GMX/Mail.com anymore with PM that I know of

Trippynet · Post by **Trippynet** » 2016-07-23, 12:39

Yep, even IETab doesn't work as a workaround because it uses an IE compatibility mode which GMX doesn't like - unless anyone can figure a way of getting IETab to render using the standard IE11 mode. I don't necessarily mind having to use an alternative rendering engine for a single page if it means I can still open it (sort of) in Pale Moon.

Post by **satrow** » 2016-07-23, 16:35

I've been wondering whether the new blank issue with 26.3.3 is as a result of some new info page failing to show - and I've just opened the latest email in 27Alpha, from a forum subscription, to see an instant reply slot at the base of the reading frame. Is this new or I've simply not noticed it previously (scaling difference?) ? I checked back down the most recent list and maybe 20% of my read emails all trigger this input box.

Davesnothere · Post by **Davesnothere** » 2016-07-23, 18:23

satrow wrote:I've been wondering whether the new blank issue with 26.3.3 is ....

Bear in mind that my version 25.8.0 of PM has this problem too (and likely all versions between).

So does my FireFox 24.7.0. ESR.

I know that this doesn't answer your question, but I wanted it to be clear that it is not just one version being troubled.

Post by **satrow** » 2016-07-23, 19:16

Fine, thanks

plodr · Post by **plodr** » 2016-07-23, 22:02

Reply instantly was there before the page went blank.

I also tried to kill that feedback thing you see on the home page.

Post by **satrow** » 2016-07-24, 02:54

plodr wrote:Reply instantly was there before the page went blank.

I also tried to kill that feedback thing you see on the home page.

Okay, thanks for the confirmation.

I'm also seeing a difference now when the 24 hour auto logout occurs (27 Alpha), now it tries to relog instead of telling me off about forgetting to logout before kicking me completely, though that may have been a one-off, I need to wait and see whether that's consistent.

rogero188 · Post by **rogero188** » 2016-07-24, 15:12

I've been looking around and I'm trying out Zoho. http://www.zoho.com. Seems OK to me and at least the pages load as they should. I'll keep testing it but, for me, it's probably the way to go.

Davesnothere · Post by **Davesnothere** » 2016-07-24, 21:12

rogero188 wrote:I've been looking around and I'm trying out Zoho....

I have had a Zoho account since Autumn of 2013 (my GMX account began only this year), and there are pros and cons to Zoho.

The newest development worthy of concern is that for a while now, they have been letting us voluntarily test a new UI.

I have done so and do NOT like it, and have reverted to their existing UI.

The natural fear is that at some point, they will FORCE us to use the new UI, just as Yahoo, Microsoft, Mozilla, and more recently GMX has done.

Post by **satrow** » 2016-07-25, 00:10

We're not forced to use the new Yahoo! gui, there's still the option of an older 'classic' version.

Davesnothere · Post by **Davesnothere** » 2016-07-25, 00:44

satrow wrote:We're not forced to use the new Yahoo! gui, there's still the option of an older 'classic' version.

Well it's not exactly the same as their Classic UI which I used for about 10 years up until 2013....

The difference between a browser and a website is that the browser is only a vehicle to view the web pages, where these WebMail sites are a destination, and one of mission-critical importance to some users.

Much as we do not want to, it is logistically somewhat easier to change to another web browser than to choose a new WebMail provider.

When Pale Moon 27 is released (with its own self-acknowledged issues tidied up), I will give it a try, but for now, I will have to use another browser for the GMX site, unless GMX or Pale Moon sooner fixes the current malfunction somehow.

Post by **satrow** » 2016-07-25, 01:14

So Yahoo does leave us an option, whereas with GMX, we don't, neither do we know whether they've finished messing with it (I don't have a GMX.de email any longer, so I can't make any comparison there to see what they might be aiming for).

Sure you have an option to use another browser, you'll have one with your OS, there's an alt. PM version you can switch to for GMX (but use a different Profile for it) and there are a number of other, modern browsers you could choose. I use Firefox ESR as my alt.

Davesnothere · Post by **Davesnothere** » 2016-07-25, 03:03

satrow wrote: So Yahoo does leave us an option, whereas with GMX, we don't [have one], neither do we know whether they've finished messing with it....

Yes, it's frustrating, and I don't think that GMX has made a public statement so far as to what's up, nor their intentions.

BTW, the extra tags here are K00L.

DSL Reports (where I mostly participate) does not have such stuff.

coffeebreak · Post by **coffeebreak** » 2016-07-25, 16:02

Just noticed something today ...
The GMX account includes file storage and I could not access this feature with the alpha.

Was logged in, using email with no trouble -- but clicking the "File Storage" tab produced a blank page (except for header). I don't use their storage and hadn't look at it earlier so don't know how recent this is.

It was possible to access the storage feature with FF 45 and 38 esr.

Edit:
This appears to be tied in with the alpha's download manager issues (discussed in the relevant board). File storage page content returned after the browser was restarted with the checkbox to clear "Browsing & Download History" deselected.

I had not appreciated the range of situations in which this family of issues would manifest and will not post concerning any future symptoms I stumble over that have this etiology.

In case it is useful, here is the error produced when the "File Storage" page was blank:

Code: Select all

Error: NS_ERROR_FACTORY_NOT_REGISTERED: 
Source File: https://sec-s.uicdn.com/qx/l/gmx_com/3.41.0-1116/script/sd3.js Line: 222

2nd Edit:
The storage page issue is fixed with PM 27.0.0a2.

Davesnothere · Post by **Davesnothere** » 2016-07-25, 23:12

coffeebreak wrote:Just noticed something today ...

The GMX account includes file storage and I could not access this feature with the alpha....

Thanks.

I have settled into using either FF42 or SeaMonkey 2.39 to access the GMX WebMail page for now.

Still, I hope that PM will be usable again with GMX soon.

Mr. Moonchild, have you any observations to make about the technical aspects of this problem ?

Davesnothere · Post by **Davesnothere** » 2016-07-26, 12:26

PLEASE NOTE :

This problem is also being discussed here :

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r308875 ... d-mail-com

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r308813 ... -questions

Trippynet · Post by **Trippynet** » 2016-07-26, 16:30

It's also possible to moan on GMX's Facebook profile. The more people complain at them (and publicly), maybe they'll try and fix this instead of just trying to pawn everyone off onto Fireflop instead. As it is, I cannot see any reason why this has broken. If I get into GMX mail via another browser, it looks identical to how it did before they broke things, so it's not as if they've pushed out a major redesign or anything.

Davesnothere · Post by **Davesnothere** » 2016-07-26, 16:55

Trippynet wrote:It's also possible to moan on GMX's Facebook profile. The more people complain at them (and publicly), maybe they'll try and fix this instead of just trying to pawn everyone off onto FF instead.

As it is, I cannot see any reason why this has broken. If I get into GMX mail via another browser, it looks identical to how it did before they broke things, so it's not as if they've pushed out a major redesign or anything.

I agree.

And as mentioned upthread, my FireFox 24 ESR has the same problem, and it is known that some parts of Pale Moon are based on that milestone.

I'm not sure at what version of FF that GMX begins to work, but my FF 42 test runs GMX fine.

I'll try a test install of FF 29 and report back yea or nay.

New Tobin Paradigm · Post by **New Tobin Paradigm** » 2016-07-26, 16:57

Please limit the corruptions of the name Firefox (the Fire* and *fox) much as possible. You have been warned.

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