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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by strikematch » 2021-02-12, 07:17

Pentium4User wrote:
2021-02-12, 05:58
Please show again

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cat /etc/apt/sources.list
Sure. It's the default plus two of the three repos you mentioned in a previous post:

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root@focal:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal-security main restricted universe multiverse
I only intend to use this jail for Pale Moon and Brave, but if you think adding focal-backports is still advisable in that scenario I'll add it.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by Pentium4User » 2021-02-12, 12:43

It is okay now.
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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by stevenpusser » 2021-02-17, 19:03

Looks like Debian testing and Sid have just dropped gcc-8 and 9 from their repos, so I'll have to switch to gcc-10 for those builds.

At the same time, I'll probably mess with some of the Ubuntu build depends, so if you get an update notice for 29.0.1-2 packages, they aren't really urgent, so you can hold off if strapped for bandwidth.

I'll probably set up a separate test repo for GTK 3 builds, too, that will be seen as a higher version--something like palemoon-29.0.1-2gtk3. If they work well, maybe I'll switch to GTK 3 for the main repo.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by RoestVrijStaal » 2021-02-19, 00:26

stevepusser wrote:
2021-02-08, 23:25
Yes, on Feb 3. See this thread to see how to remove the expired key and get the new one: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=26106
Thanks for the explanation. I asked to be sure that the key was not comprised. (Updating works smooth again) :thumbup:

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by stevenpusser » 2021-02-20, 17:48

RoestVrijStaal wrote:
2021-02-19, 00:26
stevepusser wrote:
2021-02-08, 23:25
Yes, on Feb 3. See this thread to see how to remove the expired key and get the new one: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=26106
Thanks for the explanation. I asked to be sure that the key was not comprised. (Updating works smooth again) :thumbup:
I have no problems at all with users asking relevant questions about security. I just wish the OBS could have watched the keys to make sure they wouldn't expire, but hey, it's a completely free service--where am I going to find better?

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by bgstack15 » 2021-02-21, 00:30

In my experience with the OpenSUSE Build Service, if an apt repository is not re-built due to a lack of new/rebuilt packages, then an old apt repo will still point to an outdated GPG key. The main project's GPG key is rotated. But if, e.g., a Debian 9 repository has only one package in it which was last built before the GPG key rotated, the Debian 9 repo then points to the now-expired and possibly even deleted GPG key. I had to trigger a package rebuild which then rebuilt the apt repo. I think the OBS has an option to merely regenerate the apt repo without having to rebuild packages though. But with all the UI changes it's hard to keep track of the feature set.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by stevenpusser » 2021-03-02, 22:11

Anyway....

I've added a separate repository for GTK+ 3 builds with the release of 29.1.0. You can have both repositories in your sources, but the GTK+ 3 version will be seen as the latest. The original repo will have gtk2 in the package version, as in "palemoon_29.1.0-1.gtk2".

https://build.opensuse.org/package/show ... 3/palemoon

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-03-02, 22:22

You should use the GTK version predominate on the target distro. Not try and replicate mainline with multiple versions. I thought that was clear by now dude.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by Drugwash » 2021-03-05, 15:36

Matt, there are several visual differences between GTK2 and GTK3. Personally I don't like neither, reason why I use a custom theme (official Compact Moon).
Thing is, people are entitled to select what version of PM they want to use, regardless of the main GTK version of their OS, as long as it can take both.
I run Linux Mint Cinnamon where both GTK2 and GTK3 are available. There are certain differences between them - referring only to visual ones - that could make people wanna choose one or the other. I believe people should have a way to choose between versions at any time.
So, please, let Steve be the good guy and offer us both versions so we can have what to choose from. ;)

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-03-05, 15:48

You are exposed.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by Drugwash » 2021-03-05, 16:08

No idea what you mean. Please elaborate.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-03-05, 16:23

Drugwash wrote:
2021-03-05, 16:08
No idea what you mean. Please elaborate.
No.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by Drugwash » 2021-03-05, 17:27

As if I cared anyway. :lol:

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by Moonraker » 2021-03-05, 17:40

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2021-03-05, 15:48
You are exposed.
What on earth does that actually mean in a real context.? :coffee:
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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by Night Wing » 2021-03-05, 17:47

I'm going to be another person who is the "odd man out and exposed".

I've been running Pale Moon with GTK2 on my two desktop tower computers. I like it and it doesn't give me any problems on either of those two desktops. I put Pale Moon GTK3 on my small HP dv4-5113cl laptop (14" monitor screen, 1366 x 768) with 16 GB of memory, Intel i5 processor with 2.50 speed which I use for experimental purposes. There is one glitch (which I won't go into) with GTK3 that I don't like, but that might have something to do with the hardware in this laptop.

I have two desktop tower computers and one of them originally came with a three hard drive bay and (ugh!) 64 bit Windows 8 which I immediately wiped and loaded 64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate on that hard drive. On this particular desktop tower, it has a third hard drive in it which I use for experimental purposes for different linux distros. It is a relatively fast computer (Intel i7 processor 4770) with a processor speed of (3.40) and 32 GB of memory.

When 64 bit Linux Mint 20.2 is released which is GTK3, most likely in July of 2021, I will put Pale Moon GTK3 on that hard drive and see if the glitch which I don't care for on my laptop, is still there with my 27" external monitor. If it isn't then I will start using GTK3.

But I must confess. I don't use Steve Pusser's repositories. I get my 64 bit linux Pale Moon tarballs from the link below.

http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/
Linux Mint 21.3 (Virginia) Xfce w/ Linux Pale Moon, Linux Waterfox, Linux SeaLion, Linux Firefox
MX Linux 23.2 (Libretto) Xfce w/ Linux Pale Moon, Linux Waterfox, Linux SeaLion, Linux Firefox
Linux Debian 12.5 (Bookworm) Xfce w/ Linux Pale Moon, Linux Waterfox, Linux SeaLion, Linux Firefox

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-03-05, 17:47

Night Wing wrote:
2021-03-05, 17:47
I'm going to be another person who is the "odd man out and exposed".
Not at all.

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by stevenpusser » 2021-03-06, 02:14

It's actually easier on my lazy bones to have the OBS build both gtk2 and gtk3 versions and let the user choose which one they want...unless someone provides the the official list of which distro is supposed to only have a gtk2 or gtk3 version. Then I can just go through and zap the offending releases, and damn any complaints, in traditional GNOME developer fashion. :)

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-03-06, 04:28

I'll leave the decision to you dude. Just be aware it is a legacy situation and other package maintainers should conform to their target distro.


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Re: Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 18.04 Debian 8, 9 Pale Moon repositories

Unread post by stevenpusser » 2021-04-02, 21:18

To preempt questions, the OBS hasn't added support for Ubuntu 21.04 builds yet. It usually takes a day or so, so I'll keep checking to see when they become available.

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