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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by andyprough » 2024-05-18, 08:17

moonbat wrote:
2024-05-17, 08:19
Is stevepusser unable to build them due to personal commitments?
Succeeded 21 days ago: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show ... md64-gcc-8

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by Drugwash » 2024-05-18, 10:50

andyprough wrote:
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Succeeded 21 days ago: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show ... md64-gcc-8
That's only for the GTK2 version. GTK3 version is stuck at 32.5.2 apparently. Unless the link has somehow changed. :?
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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by Echedelle » 2024-05-18, 15:30

I changed directly to the AVX release manually and added it locally with the corresponding override to the desktop file.

I waited for some time and then I thought that maybe the author was in a break or hiatus. I wanted to avoid being a burden or so, but I guess is not a real solution.

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by andyprough » 2024-05-18, 19:52

Drugwash wrote:
2024-05-18, 10:50
That's only for the GTK2 version. GTK3 version is stuck at 32.5.2 apparently. Unless the link has somehow changed. :?
Steve's been committing changes to the gtk3 packages, apparently trying to get them to build on the suse open build service, but I assume they are failing for some reason or other.

Just use the official Pale Moon builds if you need gtk3 for now, or some of the avx GNU/Linux builds.

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by __NM64__ » 2024-05-18, 20:20

I'm confused by what's being stated...

I have a Mint 20.3 PC using the GTK2 build and a Mint 21.3 PC using the GTK3 build, and I they're both on 33.0.2 rather than anything older like 32.5.2 nor anything newer like 33.1.0.

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by Drugwash » 2024-05-18, 20:32

andyprough wrote:
2024-05-18, 19:52
Drugwash wrote:
2024-05-18, 10:50
That's only for the GTK2 version. GTK3 version is stuck at 32.5.2 apparently. Unless the link has somehow changed. :?
Steve's been committing changes to the gtk3 packages, apparently trying to get them to build on the suse open build service, but I assume they are failing for some reason or other.

Just use the official Pale Moon builds if you need gtk3 for now, or some of the avx GNU/Linux builds.
Oh I do use the official GTK3 builds as the daily tool so it's not a problem. Was just pointing out the oddity of the missing builds.
Can't use the AVX builds as my CPU doesn't support any of those instruction sets.
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2024-05-18, 20:20
I'm confused by what's being stated...
The discussion was only about the Ubuntu 18.04 releases where the GtK3 version is stuck behind. I use Mint 19.2 based on Ubuntu 18.04, didn't look for anything else.
Somehow I see the wrong link got posted in my message above. This machine sometimes has a mind of its own, the clipboard behaves erratically. Gotta fix the link (if possible).
EDIT: Link fixed.

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by Mæstro » 2024-05-26, 12:28

It has been a month now, so I would not be surprised if we in Pusserland skip v33·1 and upgrade to the next version, but has anybody heard from Mr Pusser? I hope he is not hurt.
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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by andyprough » 2024-05-26, 18:12

Mæstro wrote:
2024-05-26, 12:28
It has been a month now, so I would not be surprised if we in Pusserland skip v33·1 and upgrade to the next version, but has anybody heard from Mr Pusser? I hope he is not hurt.
The deb packages for all the architectures and gtk versions are in the MX repos, for example in this mirror: http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packa ... /palemoon/

Looks like the OpenSUSE Build Service isn't getting updated for some reason. Could be that OBS is failing to do all the builds.

Steve is active on the MX Linux forum, screen name 'Stevo', you can make an account there and PM him or start a forum thread to discuss it. MX has been super busy the past few months pushing out distro updates, he might not have time to check this forum regularly.

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by Drugwash » 2024-05-26, 18:43

andyprough wrote:
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The deb packages for all the architectures and gtk versions are in the MX repos, for example in this mirror: http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packa ... /palemoon/
Apparently only GTK2 builds are available for MX19, and only GTK3 builds for MX 21 and 23. So it doesn't seem to be "all for all" but only select combinations.

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by andyprough » 2024-05-26, 19:18

Drugwash wrote:
2024-05-26, 18:43
andyprough wrote:
2024-05-26, 18:12

The deb packages for all the architectures and gtk versions are in the MX repos, for example in this mirror: http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packa ... /palemoon/
Apparently only GTK2 builds are available for MX19, and only GTK3 builds for MX 21 and 23. So it doesn't seem to be "all for all" but only select combinations.
But any of the ones built on the earlier MX version should work on the current MX version (or other current Debian based distros). I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. When I run 'sudo apt install --dry-run' on the MX 19 and MX 21 packages, apt shows that they will install without a problem.

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by Drugwash » 2024-05-26, 20:49

But would a GTK3 package built for MX21 or MX23 install on Mint 19.x/Ubuntu 18.04? That I don't know, and haven't tried (yet). Let's do it now.
...
And here's the result:
Screenshot from 2024-05-26 23-47-21.png
So unfortunately newer builds won't even install on older OS, not to mention whether they would've actually worked 100% correctly. :(

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by andyprough » 2024-05-26, 20:59

Drugwash wrote:
2024-05-26, 20:49
But would a GTK3 package built for MX21 or MX23 install on Mint 19.x/Ubuntu 18.04? That I don't know, and haven't tried (yet). Let's do it now.
...
And here's the result:
Screenshot from 2024-05-26 23-47-21.png

So unfortunately newer builds won't even install on older OS, not to mention whether they would've actually worked 100% correctly. :(
But you would never expect newer builds to install on older distros. Especially not a browser. If you need that why not just use the official Pale Moon GTK3 binary?

Or if you are using MX 19, just start a thread on their forum and say, "I need the GTK3 version of Pale Moon working on MX 19 please". Steve will probably pop in and discuss it with you there.

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by Drugwash » 2024-05-26, 21:36

It all depends on the tools used for compiling. Some allow running new builds on old OS, some don't. In this case I tried and it failed. C'est la vie.

I use Linux Mint 19.2 (based off of Ubuntu 18.04) and as a daily driver I do use the official GTK3 build in portable mode but I also used to install this build as a failsafe.
Sure, there (still) is the GTK2 build - just wanted to have them both on the same "line". Oh well.

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by Nigaikaze » 2024-05-26, 21:48

andyprough wrote:
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he might not have time to check this forum regularly.
Looks like that's the case, that Steve doesn't pop in here anymore. His profile says he was last active here on Wed Sep 20, 2023.
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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by andyprough » 2024-05-26, 22:19

Nigaikaze wrote:
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Looks like that's the case, that Steve doesn't pop in here anymore. His profile says he was last active here on Wed Sep 20, 2023.
Yeah, that's about the time MX would have started putting together their new official Raspberry Pi installation ISO's. I'm pretty sure that Steve is the resident Raspberry Pi expert, so that would have probably added a massive amount of packaging to his workload.

The cool thing about that is if you are running a Raspberry Pi you now have the option of a distro with a native one-click Pale Moon installer.

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by __NM64__ » 2024-05-28, 06:47

Funny thing... you know that Mint 21 PC I said that had Steven Pusser's GTK3 build of 0.2?

Well, when I restored a disk image from late March that had Steven Pusser's GTK3 build of 33.0.0 and updated all of my software, it was unable to find any updates for Pale Moon...

I don't suppose it's the repository itself that's borked rather than specific builds? I mean, I even still have a second Mint 21 PC that definitely has Steven Pusser's GTK3 build of 33.0.2, so clearly something is up.


...oh, wait, I see. Only the repository for xUbuntu 18.04 is listed anymore for GTK2 or GTK3 when navigating from the palemoon.org downloads page, and the only thing newer is GTK2 for Debian unstable. Is that what you people have meant all this time?

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by Echedelle » 2024-05-28, 18:03

__NM64__ wrote:
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...oh, wait, I see. Only the repository for xUbuntu 18.04 is listed anymore for GTK2 or GTK3 when navigating from the palemoon.org downloads page, and the only thing newer is GTK2 for Debian unstable. Is that what you people have meant all this time?
Yes, has been like that since the issue started.

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by __NM64__ » 2024-06-15, 21:19

Good news! (and it's not about the Dacia Sandero either): the repositories have returned! I just got the update for v33.1.1 on both my Linux Mint 20.3 and 21.1 PCs.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but did there use to be a listing for Raspbian on the GTK2 builds, or is that new?

Another thing I noticed is that GTK2 is not available for anything newer than xUbuntu 20.04. While this is not an issue for me, I am wondering if this has always been the case and I just didn't notice before?

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Re: Repositories for supported Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu releases

Unread post by moonbat » 2024-06-16, 02:25

Ditto! I had just given up a couple of days ago and downloaded the generic binaries for the latest release. Glad to be back on the repo version.
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Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-06-16, 06:29

Only to be 2 days before a new release and maybe we get this whole circus again?
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