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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by ron_1 » 2026-04-06, 21:24

back2themoon wrote:
2026-04-06, 21:01
So you both missed the explanation text AND the screenshot,
No I didn't. I'm not getting anything that looks like that (no troubleshooting button). :?

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by back2themoon » 2026-04-06, 21:28

You have to wait for the exclamation mark, then click on Troubleshoot. It doesn't stay for too long so there's some timing invlolved.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by xenergyx » 2026-04-06, 21:54

yeh back2moons right, i sent a troubleshoot info with my message pasted instantly after clicking on troubleshoot, last saturday,
but they'll always abuse pm as long as they refuse to add it in the list where chrome & firefox are, so if moonchild could find a way
to fool them, cause they'll always incriminate pm users through the use of cloudflare in many sites, using a special script, i believe
it would be better for the future of pm. as long as they'll keep pm out of the correct browser list, which gives them the possibility
to abuse pm users for days & sometimes a week or more like they already did & keep doing it now. if no workaround is found for pm,
in the pm coding field, the abuse will continue & a lot of ppl will be fed up & try to sadly find an alternative.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by Sessh » 2026-04-07, 00:13

It's odd. Some sites that give the CF prompt never show the "Troubleshoot" link at all. Browser freezes briefly, then it just reloads itself. Other sites do show the Troubleshooting, but clicking it doesn't work and if it does work, it may not even let me type into the comment field at all.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by xenergyx » 2026-04-07, 00:21

its normal that u cant type sessh, its because u dont read me ..

i claimed to quicky paste (not type my message) after clicking on troubleshooting as fast as it appears & the popup appears, then a green message shows its been sent.

but the issue isnt u trying hard to make a report, but to try to discuss about what u believe to be an issue but is simply the author of cloudlfare
powertripping on ursers of pm .. . as he already did a year ago.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by Moonchild » 2026-04-07, 06:18

Just got to thank whomever it was pushing out that commit for making many people's Easter weekend a lot less enjoyable than it could have been.
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-04-07, 06:59

Moonchild wrote:
2026-04-07, 06:18
Just got to thank whomever it was pushing out that commit for making many people's Easter weekend a lot less enjoyable than it could have been.
If it's the same one(s) that did the exact same thing last year (https://forum.palemoon.org/search.php?k ... ter+sunday), well...
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by dinosaur » 2026-04-07, 11:56

Sessh wrote:
2026-04-07, 00:13
It's odd. Some sites that give the CF prompt never show the "Troubleshoot" link at all. Browser freezes briefly, then it just reloads itself. Other sites do show the Troubleshooting, but clicking it doesn't work and if it does work, it may not even let me type into the comment field at all.
I never, ever saw any "Troubleshoot" link in any of the sites that have caused me (lots of) troubles...

For me the troublesome sites still stubbornly refuse to exit the looping CF verification... And waiting several minutes won't see any change either.
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by rainyd » 2026-04-07, 12:41

dinosaur wrote:
2026-04-07, 11:56
I never, ever saw any "Troubleshoot" link in any of the sites that have caused me (lots of) troubles...

For me the troublesome sites still stubbornly refuse to exit the looping CF verification... And waiting several minutes won't see any change either.

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The same for me: waiting a few minutes doesn't change anything.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by flamelord » 2026-04-07, 18:32

Any updates?
Does the new build fix it?
The new build hasn't rolled out for me yet(SSE2/AVX2)

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by xenergyx » 2026-04-07, 19:07

no effect on cloudflare from new build

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by billmcct » 2026-04-07, 20:38

As of yesterday, only 4 of the below browsers would pass CF Turnstile.
FF Portable
Chrome Portable
Edge
r3dfox
All others and some not in the list are blocked.
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by andyprough » 2026-04-07, 21:36

billmcct wrote:
2026-04-07, 20:38
As of yesterday, only 4 of the below browsers would pass CF Turnstile.
FF Portable
Chrome Portable
Edge
r3dfox
All others and some not in the list are blocked.
This is getting painful again. Has anyone heard from Cloudflare? I know we've messaged them on various platforms.

If Cloudflare isn't talking, do we need to ramp up our PR pressure on them again? Contact the same tech news reporters, see if @back2themoon can get another post up on Hacker News again?

Or should we hold off for a couple days, if anyone has gotten any indication CF is going to be responsive to this outage?

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by PlebbyMoon » 2026-04-07, 23:38

well, turnstile doesn't work for me in PM, however, it does seem to work in firefox 115.32.1esr on windows 7. I'm not sure if that's particularily helpful as i'm sure its a rarely used version.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-04-08, 04:50

Surprisingly, I got past https://alternativeto.net/ 's CF verification easily, but any other I've encountered (only a handful as I've come to avoid CF sites for the most part) still gets stuck. I'm wondering why. Have they implemented a PM pass, since we've had a good rapport with them, or did CF institute some more hardcore ..Firewall thingie.. settings that everyone else is just using as default?

Can everyone else also get past AlternativTo's CF?
Off-topic:
"Fun" fact, the reason I visited AlternativeTo is because I've started encountering more and more JPG/JPEG images that just won't open in IrfanView. "Can't read file header", and it's stumped me a long time, but it turns out that it's due to some "progressive scan" thingie? So I was looking for some akin to IrfanView, with a forum, that can handle this new-fangled thing.
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by q160765803 » 2026-04-08, 08:46

Gemmaugr wrote:
2026-04-08, 04:50
Surprisingly, I got past https://alternativeto.net/ 's CF verification easily, but any other I've encountered (only a handful as I've come to avoid CF sites for the most part) still gets stuck. I'm wondering why. Have they implemented a PM pass, since we've had a good rapport with them, or did CF institute some more hardcore ..Firewall thingie.. settings that everyone else is just using as default?

Can everyone else also get past AlternativTo's CF?
Off-topic:
"Fun" fact, the reason I visited AlternativeTo is because I've started encountering more and more JPG/JPEG images that just won't open in IrfanView. "Can't read file header", and it's stumped me a long time, but it turns out that it's due to some "progressive scan" thingie? So I was looking for some akin to IrfanView, with a forum, that can handle this new-fangled thing.
Off-topic:
I wonder if there are samples for such JPEG files?

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by back2themoon » 2026-04-08, 08:57

Until Cloudflare fixes their mess, another reminder that you can still use Pale Moon on all these websites, with the extremely effective "Bypass Cloudflare with Backup Browser Cookies" extension.

It does require some initial setup (don't expect a magic "install and done" solution) but it does the job.

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by Gemmaugr » 2026-04-08, 14:11

Off-topic:
q160765803 wrote:
2026-04-08, 08:46
I wonder if there are samples for such JPEG files?
I sent you a PM.. Private message, not Pale Moon ,)
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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by Sessh » 2026-04-08, 22:30

Has there still been no response from Cloudflare to your emails, Moonchild?

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Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

Post by KlarkKentThe3rd » 2026-04-09, 05:45

Sessh wrote:
2026-04-08, 22:30
Has there still been no response from Cloudflare to your emails, Moonchild?
He did not forget, and will post once there is something to post.