Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

[Drugwash]

Moderator note: Generic discussion split off to its own thread.

All this generic discussion aside we don't know what user @coltson's hardware and software are. I could provide them with my private 33.9.0 GTK3 build if needed, should work in Ubuntu 18.04/Mint 19.x and similar. There's been no change whatsoever to the code, and mozconfig is pretty much standard. That should help for the moment, but for the future... (And I still have to build 33.9.0.1 when I could afford to close everything, as it needs more RAM than is currently free)

[coltson]

So in the end, its a choice between building it from source, which besides requiring to use this weird mozconfig stuff, that I never used before (instead good & old configure, in which I am sure could reduce the number of indirect libs required), it will require a nearly infinite amount of time, nearly infinite amount of ram (which may break the building process?) and likely massive amounts of HD space.

OR

To build a newer gcc from source (which also requires massive amount of ram, cpu and disk), a new glibc (decent amount of time, may break the system when installing), new pango and glib (decent amount of time), all its dependencies, and pray that none of these shows any trouble during the building stage. Possibly have to rebuild Gtk after all that with the newer pango,glib and their indirect dependencies (which increases a lot chance something to broke)

and the veredit is... none! Perhaps when I have more free time or if not, or some time in future, when Firefox drops support o my current set of libs.

[Drugwash]

Well, if you were to tell us your hardware and OS details we might provide some real help.

In the new topic split from here I already mentioned a couple PPAs where one can find already built new GCC versions for older Linux versions. You wouldn't have to build it from source yourself unless your OS is older than the compatible ones (Ubuntu Xenial is the oldest I believe) or has a completely different base than Debian/Ubuntu.
In the same topic you will find my own version of the .mozconfig file, which is not such a monster if all the commented out options were to be removed; after all they are there only as a guide for different OS versions and/or configurations.

For the hardware configuration of my machine (also mentioned there) building Pale Moon currently takes about three hours, maybe less. I failed to check how much additional space the building process takes. The sources themselves take about 2GB of HDD space, which shouldn't be too much according to nowadays standards. Mind you I didn't have as much free space either until I bought an external HDD. It does have to be formatted with a Linux file system though (ext4 would do); earlier I had tried with a NTFS HDD and the hardlinks wouldn't work, building failed.

About 8GB of RAM are enough if nothing else heavy is running and the threads are limited. If swap is available it should help when necessary.

[flamelord]

4chan captcha consistently failing lately.
CF is getting more and more unbearable in PM.

[frostknight]

4chan captcha consistently failing lately.
CF is getting more and more unbearable in PM.

Careful though, 4chan has some interesting rumors about it. If they are true rumors, you should not want to get too involved.

That would be me though.

Doxxing for one thing...

[flamelord]

Careful though, 4chan has some interesting rumors about it. If they are true rumors, you should not want to get too involved.

That would be me though.

Doxxing for one thing...

Buddy, I wasn't born yesterday
Even if I were to doxx myself nobody would give a fuck(I don't live in a big 1st world country just so you know) because I am literally some random dude nobody knows
Everything you post or will probably ever post on the internet was and will probably be collected by various agencies(CIA, NSA etc.) somehow

Anyhow, the issue persists
https://sys.4chan.org/captcha
It gives me the tickbox and I click it but it fails and then it loops
This happened before too, and usually in the second attempt at getting the tickbox it would get through the captcha, but now even the 2nd attempt doesn't seem to work
I find myself resorting to using Chropera
I don't post on 4chan that often these days, but it's still an annoying issue

[back2themoon]

Anyhow, the issue persists
https://sys.4chan.org/captcha

Works fine here.

[Moonchild]

I'm not seeing any issues with the captchas at the moment, either.

[frostknight]

Buddy, I wasn't born yesterday
Even if I were to doxx myself nobody would give a fuck(I don't live in a big 1st world country just so you know) because I am literally some random dude nobody knows

Well, I hope you are right.

[SlySven]

I've occasionally had the Cloudflare "security verification" actually fatal crashing PaleMoon {Windows 64bit}. Most recently on the Phronix site when I go to view comments on an article. e.g. this one: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Sma ... ks-Funding - fair enough I haven't yet tried with a blank profile and I am using ηMatrix - but for it to cause PM to completely blow itself up seems a little off...

Oh f\*\*k. I've recently had to retire my main PC and I'm using a different machine I had in reserve which hadn't been powered up in while - according to the "Check for updates": "No Updates Found" - "There are no updates available. Pale Moon will check periodically for updates." - then I checked the version 33.2.1. - so I'm just downloading the current version (33.9.1) right now! Not sure happened there.

[back2themoon]

Current Pale Moon version should solve your issue. I did try viewing the comments on that Phoronix article.

The Cloudflare verification was a bit more stubborn than usual, but it ultimately went through normally.

[dinosaur]

The Cloudflare verification was a bit more stubborn than usual, but it ultimately went through normally.

You meant "normally stubborn", didn't you ?

But yes, the current PM version works fine for me as well on Phoronix....

[Daikun]

I'm getting this issue when trying to load the Lost Media Wiki.

[Night Wing]

I'm getting this issue when trying to load the Lost Media Wiki.

You are correct. I could not gain access to the site either.

[jobbautista9]

I'm getting this issue when trying to load the Lost Media Wiki.

Cloudflare's check doesn't seem to like being loaded from an origin that uses plain HTTP. Use HTTPS for that site instead.

[Daikun]

I'm getting this issue when trying to load the Lost Media Wiki.

Cloudflare's check doesn't seem to like being loaded from an origin that uses plain HTTP. Use HTTPS for that site instead.

That worked! Thank you.

[Night Wing]

Cloudflare's check doesn't seem to like being loaded from an origin that uses plain HTTP. Use HTTPS for that site instead.

Worked for me also. Thanks for the tip.

[Moonchild]

It's a known issue I've reported but apparently is being ignored.

[frostknight]

It's a known issue I've reported but apparently is being ignored.

I am surprised how much they have actually been willing to work with you though honestly...

Big corporations in my opinion usually don't concern themselves with community web browser projects like yours. No offense...

This despite palemoon being the last web browser worthwhile on the web that has addons even on the level of XUL while still respecting privacy and not being overly bloated.. Firefox and chromium based web browsers don't do any of this as well in my opinion even their forks

Point being, I wish this wasn't the case, but... yeah. Not the case.

[flamelord]

CF has been getting annoying again lately