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Operating system: Windows 10 LTSC 1809 x64 (10.0.17763.1999)
Browser version: 33.7.0
32-bit or 64-bit browser?: 32-bit
Problem URL: -
Browser theme (if not default): -
Installed add-ons: uBlock Origin / HTML5 Media Tuner / Lull the Tabs / Godville UI+ / Download Master
Installed plugins: (about:plugins): -

If possible, please include the output of help->troubleshooting information (as text):

Application Basics
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Name: Pale Moon
Version: 33.7.0 (32-bit)
Build ID: 20250404184134
Update Channel: release
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:115.0) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/6.7 Firefox/115.0 PaleMoon/33.7.0
OS: Windows_NT 10.0
CPU Capabilities: SSE2
Safe Mode: false

Extensions
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Name: Download Master Plugin
Version: 1.4.12
Enabled: true
ID: dmpluginff@westbyte.com

Name: Erinome Godville UI+
Version: 1.1.38.1
Enabled: true
ID: godville-ui-plus@erinome.net

Name: HTML5 Media Tuner
Version: 1.2.5
Enabled: true
ID: h5vtuner@Off.JustOff

Name: Lull The Tabs
Version: 1.5.2
Enabled: true
ID: lull-the-tabs@Off.JustOff

Name: uBlock Origin
Version: 1.16.4.30
Enabled: true
ID: uBlock0@raymondhill.net

Graphics
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Features
Compositing: Direct3D 11
GPU Accelerated Windows: 1/1 Direct3D 11 (OMTC)
Asynchronous Pan/Zoom: none
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WebGL 1 Driver Renderer: Google Inc. -- ANGLE (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Direct3D11 vs_5_0 ps_5_0)
WebGL 1 Driver Version: OpenGL ES 2.0 (ANGLE 2.1.0.)
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WebGL 2 Driver WSI Info: EGL_VENDOR: Google Inc. (adapter LUID: 0000000000008fcc) EGL_VERSION: 1.4 (ANGLE 2.1.0.) EGL_EXTENSIONS: EGL_EXT_create_context_robustness EGL_ANGLE_d3d_share_handle_client_buffer EGL_ANGLE_surface_d3d_texture_2d_share_handle EGL_ANGLE_query_surface_pointer EGL_ANGLE_window_fixed_size EGL_ANGLE_keyed_mutex EGL_ANGLE_surface_orientation EGL_ANGLE_direct_composition EGL_NV_post_sub_buffer EGL_KHR_create_context EGL_EXT_device_query EGL_KHR_image EGL_KHR_image_base EGL_KHR_gl_texture_2D_image EGL_KHR_gl_texture_cubemap_image EGL_KHR_gl_renderbuffer_image EGL_KHR_get_all_proc_addresses EGL_KHR_stream EGL_KHR_stream_consumer_gltexture EGL_NV_stream_consumer_gltexture_yuv EGL_ANGLE_flexible_surface_compatibility EGL_ANGLE_stream_producer_d3d_texture_nv12 EGL_EXTENSIONS(nullptr): EGL_EXT_client_extensions EGL_EXT_platform_base EGL_EXT_platform_device EGL_ANGLE_platform_angle EGL_ANGLE_platform_angle_d3d EGL_ANGLE_device_creation EGL_ANGLE_device_creation_d3d11 EGL_ANGLE_experimental_present_path EGL_KHR_client_get_all_proc_addresses
WebGL 2 Driver Renderer: Google Inc. -- ANGLE (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Direct3D11 vs_5_0 ps_5_0)
WebGL 2 Driver Version: OpenGL ES 3.0 (ANGLE 2.1.0.)
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Hardware H264 Decoding: Yes; Using D3D11 API
Audio Backend: wasapi
DirectWrite: false (10.0.17763.1817)
GPU #1
Active: Yes
Description: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
Vendor ID: 0x10de
Device ID: 0x1c81
Driver Version: 30.0.14.7212
Driver Date: 9-13-2021
Drivers: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_9be48e12ebceea24\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_9be48e12ebceea24\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_9be48e12ebceea24\nvldumdx.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_9be48e12ebceea24\nvldumdx.dll C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_9be48e12ebceea24\nvldumd.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_9be48e12ebceea24\nvldumd.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_9be48e12ebceea24\nvldumd.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_9be48e12ebceea24\nvldumd.dll
Subsys ID: 00000000
RAM: 2048

Diagnostics
ClearType Parameters: Gamma: 2,2 Pixel Structure: RGB ClearType Level: 0 Enhanced Contrast: 200
AzureCanvasAccelerated: 0
AzureCanvasBackend: skia
AzureContentBackend: cairo
AzureFallbackCanvasBackend: cairo
ClearType Parameters: Gamma: 2,2 Pixel Structure: RGB ClearType Level: 0 Enhanced Contrast: 200
Decision Log
DIRECT2D:
disabled by user: Disabled via gfx.direct2d.disabled




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Important Locked Preferences
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Places Database
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JavaScript
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Accessibility
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Library Versions
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NSPR
Expected minimum version: 4.35
Version in use: 4.35

NSS
Expected minimum version: 3.90.6
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I wonder, what exactly can trigger "List all tabs" graying out till browser restart? Is this Windows 10-related issue or last release? There's quite a lot of tabs stored there, though (most of them are not loaded). Never seen that on previous version and Windows 7...

[back2themoon]

Off-topic:
I'd suggest to replace Lull The Tabs with the newer Suspender, and your uBlock version with this one, which has security fixes among several other improvements.

[Moonchild]

I've never seen this particular feature misbehave, so it's peculiar at least. If the state is "greyed out" then it generally means the all tabs pane is open. So its state seems to be confused somehow.
Does it respond to the shortcut Ctrl+Shift+Tab if it's in a greyed state?

[Massacre]

It appears to be very random... Still haven't experienced it again, only 2-3 times before the report. Will try Ctrl+Shift+Tab when that control will be stuck again. I have noticed, it briefly flashes after exiting all tabs pane, maybe it could stuck there in process...

[Massacre]

Caught this again. Ctrl-Shift-Tab does not bring "list all tabs", instead switches between address bar and current tab content. Something like this:

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[Moonchild]

Ctrl-Shift-Tab does not bring "list all tabs", instead switches between address bar and current tab content.

I don't know what's going on there, then. That behaviour is normally bound to function key F6 - not even close to tab switching keys.

[Massacre]

Ctrl-Shift-Tab does not bring "list all tabs", instead switches between address bar and current tab content.

I don't know what's going on there, then. That behaviour is normally bound to function key F6 - not even close to tab switching keys.

And this happens only when "list all tabs" control becomes grayed out. When it is in normal state, Ctrl-Shift-Tab brings "list all tabs" as expected.

BTW, if you press Ctrl-Shift-Tab when "list all tabs" is already open, it is identical to F6, too. Switches cursor between "list all tabs" search control and main window behind it (but you need to press it twice to return cursor back to list all tabs search control).

[Moonchild]

Hmm. Well, I guess it does make sense within the context of the thumb pane (ignoring modifiers).
Best I can gather right now it's a race condition of some sort. Are you using some fast sequences of input (and if so, which)? Rapid key presses or key/mouse combinations? To understand what's going on we really do need to find some steps to reliably reproduce the issue.

[Kerebron]

[Ctrl]+[Shift] combination might be the culprit here. I don't know if it's the case in W10, but in W7 it is the shortcut for keyboard layout switching. Sometimes Windows likes to register only the [Ctrl]+[Shift] part, disregarding the rest of shortcut keys. It happened to me a couple of times in Pale Moon, and then the keyboard starts to spout out some gibberish, until you press [Ctrl]+[Shift] again (in case of having only two keyboard layouts).

Maybe the addon itself has some problems with registering more than two-key combinations, somehow?

[Massacre]

There is indeed Ctrl+Shift assigned to secondary keyboard layout, as in Win7, but using it does not seem to cause any immediate changes to Pale Moon's behavior...