V33.5.0 update killed all sessions

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V33.5.0 update killed all sessions

Unread post by vershner » 2024-12-07, 23:05

Hi - I just updated to 33.5.0 and found that it killed all active sessions. I realise this might be necessary sometimes due to the nature of the update, but I'd really appreciate a warning so I can plan around that before clicking update.

Operating system: Windows 10
Browser version: V33.5.0
32-bit or 64-bit browser?: 64-bit
Problem URL: All
Browser theme (if not default): default
Installed add-ons: uBlock Origin, Tree Style Tabs, Nuke Anything
Installed plugins: (about:plugins): none

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Application Basics
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Name: Pale Moon
Version: 33.5.0 (64-bit)
Build ID: 20241201201723
Update Channel: release
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OS: Windows_NT 10.0
CPU Capabilities: SSE2 AVX AVX2
Safe Mode: false

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failures: [GFX1-]: DXVA2D3D11 just crashed; hardware video will be disabled.

Crash Guard Disabled Features
D3D11 Video Decoder:

Failure Log
(#0) Error: DXVA2D3D11 just crashed; hardware video will be disabled.

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Re: V33.5.0 update killed all sessions

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-12-07, 23:38

I'm not aware of anything that could have caused it in code upon update. I'm sorry you lost your browsing session, but it'd not be possible to warn beforehand about something unknown.
Whatever might have triggered it, it was not intentional, and I personally keep a session open; I have not experienced any issues with the update.

For the future may I suggest you keep regular profile backups if your open sessions are important? Stored sessions are volatile in nature, and it's always recommended to keep bookmarks instead.
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Re: V33.5.0 update killed all sessions

Unread post by Nuck-TH » 2024-12-08, 07:46

Moonchild wrote:
2024-12-07, 23:38
but it'd not be possible to warn beforehand about something unknown.
Would be good to have more than one .bak of sessionstore through, because after crash there is nasty habit to replace bak with damaged/empty contents of main sessionstore file and bam, you lost both working version and backup.
To wit, in Firefox something like that was implemented. Proper fix would be storing session in transactional db(like Opera Presto did and it was unbreakable), but one can dream...

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Re: V33.5.0 update killed all sessions

Unread post by Lucio Chiappetti » 2024-12-08, 09:28

I use the add-on Session Manager 0.8.1.14, it keeps a history of (at least) 4 sessions.
BTW, never lost any running session with Update and Restart.
The only thing which occurs after a restart is that some of the PhPBB forums I'm logged in require a new login (this looks random, some don't, some do soon, some do the next day). Physiological.
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Re: V33.5.0 update killed all sessions

Unread post by Bilbo47 » 2024-12-11, 23:50

Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
2024-12-08, 09:28
Session Manager 0.8.1.14
Agree this add-on works well. When my internet drops, my browsers etc also are hard-stopped. Upon restart, Session Manager presents plenty more than four session-states to choose from. This is quite more than necessary, but extra choices are nice. Could not find a UI control in the add-on for setting the number of session-states to keep.

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Re: V33.5.0 update killed all sessions

Unread post by BenFenner » 2024-12-13, 12:47

Just reporting I had the same thing happen to me. At some point recently I was logged out of all web sites I have accounts with (at least half a dozen web sites that I'm logged into and remain logged into for 6-18+ months at a time). I didn't put two and two together in the moment, but presumably it was triggered by my upgrade to PM 33.5.0.
Luckily it was a very minor inconvenience for me, but I did want to report I seemed to experience the same issue.

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Re: V33.5.0 update killed all sessions

Unread post by Nuck-TH » 2024-12-13, 13:08

BenFenner wrote:
2024-12-13, 12:47
Just reporting I had the same thing happen to me. At some point recently I was logged out of all web sites I have accounts with (at least half a dozen web sites that I'm logged into and remain logged into for 6-18+ months at a time). I didn't put two and two together in the moment, but presumably it was triggered by my upgrade to PM 33.5.0.
Luckily it was a very minor inconvenience for me, but I did want to report I seemed to experience the same issue.
It isn't session loss, it probably that: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31907

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Re: V33.5.0 update killed all sessions

Unread post by BenFenner » 2024-12-13, 13:27

Yes, that does seem to be more descriptive of the issue. I will move discussion to that thread if I feel like posting more.

(Although it only happened to me once, not each launch of the browser.)

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