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Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by albertfrome » 2024-02-12, 12:32

Operating system: WIndows10
Browser version: palemoon 33
32-bit or 64-bit browser?: 64 bits

Hi,
I intalled the portable Palemoon v33 and I've not yet import bookmarks, all add-ons from my old Firefox and I noticed that the memory ressources is about 630Mb.
When I will import bookmarks and more add-ons, I will reach 1gb.
To prevent such scenario, which version Palemoon versions, do you recommend it ?
Thank you !

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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by Theresnothinghere » 2024-02-12, 14:09

That is definitely too much. For me version v33.0.0 x64 on Windows 8 uses 200MB displaying this website. Try resetting your profile and reduce the number of addons and find PaleMoon equivalents in the addon site.
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I use the AVX2 build but I don't think it matters here.
Maybe the portable version loads more things into RAM for some reason

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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by albertfrome » 2024-02-12, 15:56

Why do you mean by resetting profile ? Create a new profile ?
Anyway, I only 9 add-ons installed among them, "classic add-ons archive".
I installed all others add-ons from "classic add-ons archive"
What's AVX2 ?

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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by therube » 2024-02-12, 16:50

What's AVX2 ?
Pale Moon x86-64 AVX/AVX2

(I didn't know of it, took a quick look just the other day, & for me, didn't notice anything "better"...)

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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by therube » 2024-02-12, 16:55

I intalled the portable Palemoon v33 and I've not yet import bookmarks, all add-ons from my old Firefox and I noticed that the memory resources is about 630Mb.
That does seem a bit much - if you've done nothing but install, add your extensions, & open to the default pages that load on startup.

What extensions?
When I will import bookmarks and more add-ons, I will reach 1gb.
How do you know?
I wouldn't think bookmarks would have any impact.
which version Palemoon versions, do you recommend it ?
33, the most recent.


You need to look at what might be eating RAM.
(Presumably ? an extension?)


And once you're set up, visiting web pages is an entirely different issue.

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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by albertfrome » 2024-02-12, 18:07

@therube

With only Palemoon Start page : https://palemoon.start.me/start, I got 254MB Memory. So, I don't think so it's related to add-ons.

I can't add my addons screenshots to this message. when clicking on "add files" button nothing is happening. I would like to show you.

I made a test in disabling a few of addons, but it did'nt drastically low the memory.

My bookmarks file is about 1.1 Mb in size.

I will be great that Palemoon integrated a Task Manager to see the memory ressources of add-ons.

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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by ron_1 » 2024-02-12, 19:47

albertfrome wrote:
2024-02-12, 18:07
I will be great that Palemoon integrated a Task Manager to see the memory ressources of add-ons.
There's info in the "about: performance" page. Under 'Performance of Add-ons' click the "more" button next to each add on.

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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by therube » 2024-02-12, 20:16

With only Palemoon Start page : https://palemoon.start.me/start, I got 254MB Memory.
That is nothing out of the ordinary.
You're not going to see much less then that.

Even the 630 you mentioned, is not that much.
It would be much if you open the browser & nothing other then start.me is loaded.
It is not much once you start loading various web pages.
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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-02-12, 20:24

Minimum requirements for official builds:

A processor with at least SSE2 support (any CPU that is not museum-grade should be fine).
We only support 32-bit on Windows. All other operating systems require 64-bit.
At least 2 GB of free RAM.
While it may be possible to run it in limited fashion on less RAM, it isn't recommended as memory pressure will cause a lot of performance loss and may cause crashes.
A reasonable screen size (720p or higher).

Recommended:

A 64-bit processor and O.S.
4 GB of free RAM.
A dedicated GPU with stable driver support.

Don't expect a "lightweight" experience. the modern web simply needs a lot of ram.
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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by therube » 2024-02-12, 21:07

We only support 32-bit on Windows.
Something wasn't said, clearly---^ ;-).

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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by albertfrome » 2024-02-13, 01:04

Thank you.

"System usage" is it about memory ?
On any case, a % doesn"t mean anything. It will better to show in Mb
ron_1 wrote:
2024-02-12, 19:47
albertfrome wrote:
2024-02-12, 18:07
I will be great that Palemoon integrated a Task Manager to see the memory ressources of add-ons.
There's info in the "about: performance" page. Under 'Performance of Add-ons' click the "more" button next to each add on.

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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by albertfrome » 2024-02-13, 01:16

I'm on Windows10 - 64bits and 4Gb Ram memory and 2.2Gb of free RAM I have.
Maybe I can install Palemoon 32bits... :roll:
For now, used memory ressources is about 283MB with one tab and only this thread page
Moonchild wrote:
2024-02-12, 20:24
We only support 32-bit on Windows. All other operating systems require 64-bit.
At least 2 GB of free RAM.

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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by athenian200 » 2024-02-13, 05:03

albertfrome wrote:
2024-02-13, 01:16
Maybe I can install Palemoon 32bits... :roll:
Ah, well what MC meant was that on Windows, we support both 32-bit and 64-bit builds, but other operating systems are 64-bit only. It definitely isn't true that we only support 32-bit builds on Windows... I mean, can you imagine being stuck with 4GB of RAM while trying to look at modern websites on the most popular OS in history, but then having a decent modern 64-bit experience on every other OS?

Like, maybe a policy like that would have made sense during the days of the DEC Alpha... however, we're long past the days where 64-bit was an exotic choice for Windows but perfectly fine for Unix.

In case it wasn't clear, though, we do in fact support 64-bit builds of Pale Moon on Windows (and every other platform). It's just that Windows happens to be the only platform where we also support 32-bit builds in addition to 64-bit builds... 32-bit builds of Pale Moon for any other operating system are unsupported, to be used and compiled at your own risk.

64-bit is recommended on all platforms, 32-bit Windows is mostly for plugin support and older Atoms at this point.
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Re: Palemoon version with less memory ressources ?

Unread post by andyprough » 2024-02-13, 05:50

A newly installed Pale Moon with eMatrix and Pure URL extensions opens on GNU/Linux with 209mb memory used for me. Seems pretty amazingly lightweight to me compared to every other capable browser.

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