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Slow startup on Cinnamon DE

Unread post by Brownies » 2021-10-27, 08:29

Hi.
I installed Pale Moon from Steve's repo and everything seems to be working fine, except that it's very slow to start when I use Cinnamon. It takes about 15-20 seconds to start but if I log out and switch to the default GNOME then it will start very fast. Starting in safe mode does not help and even starting the profile manager is as slow on Cinnamon. I have not encountered similar issues with any other program, for example Firefox is equally fast on both DEs.

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Operating system: Ubuntu 20.04
Browser version: 29.4.1
32-bit or 64-bit?: 64
Theme: Dark Moon 2.5.1
Installed add-ons: PDF Viewer 2.3.240, ScriptBlock 1.0.0, uBlock Origin 1.16.4.30
Installed plugins: (about:plugins) None

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Application Basics
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Name: Pale Moon
Version: 29.4.1 (64-bit)
Build ID: 20210922222745
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:4.8) Goanna/20210922 PaleMoon/29.4.1
OS: Linux 5.11.0-38-generic
Safe Mode: false

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Name: PDF Viewer
Version: 2.3.240
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ID: pdf.js-seamonkey@lakora.us

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Version: 0.99.12
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Re: Slow startup on Cinnamon DE

Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-10-27, 09:58

If the difference occurs with only a change in DE then that just means that Cinnamon's GTK compatibility has a problem. Pale Moon is a GTK application.
Not really much we can do about it, and even if we potentially could, without having exact details it's not possible to improve.
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Re: Slow startup on Cinnamon DE

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-10-27, 11:08

This has been expected for a while now. Are you using the GTK 2 or 3 version? If it is 2 then try 3 instead.
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Re: Slow startup on Cinnamon DE

Unread post by Brownies » 2021-10-27, 13:10

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2021-10-27, 11:08
Are you using the GTK 2 or 3 version? If it is 2 then try 3 instead.
This worked, thanks a bunch! Took me a while to figure out how to get the GTK 3 repo working.

For future reference, when you go to the repo page just click add repository and install manually. Replace

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stevenpusser/xUbuntu_20.04/
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stevenpusser:/palemoon-GTK3/xUbuntu_20.04/
in the first two commands and you're good to go.

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Re: Slow startup on Cinnamon DE

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-10-27, 14:57

Yeah I wondered when this situation would hit Debian. Good the GTK3 build works for you.
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