PM font problem on NYTimes site

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Re: PM font problem on NYTimes site

Post by rodndtube » 2021-05-14, 03:25

I decided to give hardware acceleration at try after routinely turning it off in browsers for years as it routinely created instability and crashing. Then I made the about:config change noted earlier in the thread, restarted Basilisk, and see mostly correct rendering, but it did fix the y, g, p missing below the line character elements. Now, for some reason, the underline in hypertext links are jammed up to the very bottom of text. That rendering issue is certainly easier to live with that the missing character parts.

Hoping the h/w acceleration remains stable :)

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Re: PM font problem on NYTimes site

Post by Moonchild » 2021-05-14, 11:26

rodndtube wrote:
2021-05-14, 03:25
Now, for some reason, the underline in hypertext links are jammed up to the very bottom of text.
That happens everywhere and is the direct result of their font choice. Seems to be by design; I personally think it's ugly.
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Hoping the h/w acceleration remains stable :)
It should, certainly on Windows.
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Re: PM font problem on NYTimes site

Post by Falna » 2021-05-14, 17:09

Moonchild wrote:
2021-05-13, 14:13
OK so you've explicitly disabled all compositing hardware acceleration
That will be why I experience it too then. In my case hardware acceleration is turned off to avoid juddering in YouTube. Since I never visit the NY Times it's no problem.

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Re: PM font problem on NYTimes site

Post by Pallid Planetoid » 2021-05-14, 17:18

In my case, I've had hardware acceleration enabled for years and yet don't seem to have any issues with YouTube. :thumbup: (perhaps connection speed can be a factor - that said, presumably my connection speed is slower than most because the wireless service in our area is relatively limited)
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Re: PM font problem on NYTimes site

Post by njren » 2021-05-21, 18:39

Just to chime in late that I'd been having the same issue as the OP with every NY Times article I open in Pale Moon and finally got curious if anyone else reported it here on the forum. Using Windows 7 Pro 64, Pale Moon 29.1.1 64.

The sliced off text issue only occurs in the main body and photo captions of the articles; nothing else is affected. Chrome and Firefox do handle everything correctly on my setup. Everything done as a guest, no subscription and/or logging in.

Preferences > Advanced > Use hardware acceleration when available (checked) and/or creating a new profile both solved the issue, but in both cases the hyperlinks in the articles are still a bit wonky with the underlining jammed up against the bottom of the text.

I'd be happy to post any additional troubleshooting info if it's something deemed pursuing.

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Re: PM font problem on NYTimes site

Post by Moonchild » 2021-05-22, 01:24

You're not reporting anything new and no, there's nothing to pursue -- this is a direct result of the metrics of the font in use on their site.
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Re: PM font problem on NYTimes site

Post by rodndtube » 2021-05-22, 02:36

What are the secrets of Firefox and Edge in handling these unique New York Times font metrics? I am just curious because these issues were not self-evident a couple or few months ago.

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Re: PM font problem on NYTimes site

Post by Moonchild » 2021-05-22, 08:10

They are using a different rendering engine.
Nothing "secret" there.
it's also possible that they use low-level css font tweaks to massage this font into different display properties but no site design should hard-rely on such things. Bottom line is and remains that the font metrics are wonky. That is a problem in the font file itself.
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Re: ebay.de - internal function problem

Post by rodndtube » 2021-05-23, 16:09

A workaround I used to "fix" the letters from their bottoms being cut off was using an Add-On, Font Finder. Highlighting a word in the text, then selecting Replace or Disable Font (Entire DOM) | NYT-Imperial (see figure below), would fix the hanging letters and the hyperlink from becoming part of the text. However, for every new article the process would need to be repeated. So my question is, "Is there an easy fix that could disable this font for whatever the "Entire DOM" might be when loading a New York Times page article.

Alternatively, is there a way to disable the display of the font family NYT-Imperial and have it always substituted by the font family of "georgia" ?
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Re: ebay.de - internal function problem

Post by moonbat » 2021-05-24, 00:42

The font preferences (Preferences->Content->Fonts (advanced button)) lets you specify and override what fonts to use in general categories though not specific replacements for individual fonts like you're asking, plus you can prevent sites from using their own fonts and enforce the ones you want instead.
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Re: ebay.de - internal function problem

Post by Moonchild » 2021-05-24, 10:35

Let's not pull out the sledgehammer for just one website.

You should be able to override the font with a userContent.css targeting the domain.
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Re: ebay.de - internal function problem

Post by jobbautista9 » 2021-05-24, 11:05

There's also Stylem if you prefer a extension-based solution.
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Re: ebay.de - internal function problem

Post by rodndtube » 2021-05-24, 12:31

jobbautista9 wrote:
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There's also Stylem if you prefer a extension-based solution.
I have Stylem installed for addressing another issue. So, what would the Stylem script be?

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Re: PM font problem on NYTimes site

Post by jobbautista9 » 2021-05-24, 15:08

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@-moz-document domain("nytimes.com"){
  body, p, div, textarea {font-family: georgia !important;}
}
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Re: PM font problem on NYTimes site

Post by rodndtube » 2021-05-24, 15:52

Nicely done! That did the trick :)
Many thanks!

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@-moz-document domain("nytimes.com"){
  body, p, div, textarea {font-family: georgia !important;}
}
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