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Dark web tutorial

Unread post by PM-user » 2021-04-16, 04:08

Is there a basic post or tutorial for nubes using PM to access the dark web for the first time?

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Re: Dark web tutorial

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-04-16, 04:50

Sorry, we don't like pedophiles and other such criminals around here.

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Re: Dark web tutorial

Unread post by Pentium4User » 2021-04-16, 04:51

You like to reach the TOR network with Pale Moon?
Just install the Tor software or the TOR Expert Bundle on Windows and start it.
It will listen on 127.0.0.1 Port 9050. It is a socks server.
Then just use Pale Moon's preferences dialog to tell Pale Moon to use this socks proxy.
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Sorry, we don't like pedophiles and other such criminals around here.
The TOR network isn't just used by pedophiles, it is used by normal people to avoid being spied out by websites and governments,
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Re: Dark web tutorial

Unread post by jobbautista9 » 2021-04-16, 04:53

Just use the official Tor Browser Bundle, as recommended by the Tor Project itself. Any other configuration is a privacy risk, according to them. (As if connecting to Tor in the first place isn't already a privacy risk...)
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Re: Dark web tutorial

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-04-16, 04:59

Hey, pentium4moron.. They specifically wanted to use it for the disgusting hidden services on the dark web not just as a really shitty and compromised proxy.

I think anyone who advocates for The Pedophile Tor Network surely has a lot to hide and they are quite stupid since it is common knowledge to anyone with half a brain that the whole thing has been a massive honey pot for nearly a decade now and even as a proxy it is worthless. So even announcing the intent to use such a thing only proves how retarded criminals such as yourself are.

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Re: Dark web tutorial

Unread post by jobbautista9 » 2021-04-16, 05:04

Pentium4User wrote:
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to avoid being spied out by [...] governments,
If that's the reason why they are using Tor, then they are just making it worse. By using Tor, you are basically making yourself a target for the NSA.

But that's not really the reason why I don't use Tor nowadays. I don't use Tor because I don't want to help the U.S. government, particularly the CIA, in its spying activities. Imagine if there was no grassroots campaign for Tor. You can easily conclude that every Tor connection made to your server is just another CIA agent passing by.
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Re: Dark web tutorial

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-04-16, 05:07

Pentium4User wrote:
2021-04-16, 04:51
it is used by normal people to avoid being spied out by websites and governments
Half the exit nodes are run or monitored by the FBI, and most mainstream websites will either send you 2 dozen captchas or not allow you to access them at all from known exit nodes. Add to that how drastically it slows down one's browsing and eventually the people who will put up with all this tend to largely really have something to hide about them, whether it is the Edward Snowden kind or more often the kind of shady drugs/porn kind of stuff Tobin mentioned. Better off using a no log VPN in a non Fourteen Eyes jurisdiction, and even then you have to implicitly trust that the VPN actually doesn't log traffic to be available for subpoena later. And no, nobody from the 3 letter agencies is interested in the browsing activities of the average Joe in particular for anyone to be so paranoid.

The other item of concern is commercial tracking/analytics by FB/Google and others like them and that is easily controlled by proper adblocking methods.

And it isn't just Tor. I've tried I2P as well, technically it seems sounder, but when you get down to sites hosted on it, they range from the totally banal to orphaned personal pages that haven't been updated in years. In short, nothing of use to anybody but those who actually have some highly illegal shit to hide.
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Re: Dark web tutorial

Unread post by jobbautista9 » 2021-04-16, 05:13

Off-topic:
I2P seems to be better if you're looking into starting your own hidden service (for whatever reason). It's very underrated compared to Tor. Too bad it's too slow and doesn't seem to have a lot of activity going on (or maybe that's a good thing if you really want to hide something).
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Re: Dark web tutorial

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-04-16, 05:19

jobbautista9 wrote:
2021-04-16, 05:13
Off-topic:
if you really want to hide something).
Off-topic:
It may sound distasteful but 'if you want to hide you must be doing something illegal and immoral' seems to apply to most of those that use the dark web and similar technologies. I like the idea of I2P, you can have the entire set of application layer running on top of it and I've seen versions of IRC, torrents, mail servers, forums and everything you could think of - but with activity almost non existent. If it took off it could well work as a self contained parallel internet, but there is nothing worthwhile on it.
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Re: Dark web tutorial

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-04-16, 05:36

Hiding is impossible and that is a fact. The only way to ensure that is to cut the Ethernet cable. Short of that every network every connection on every service CAN be monitored and most can be traced back to you. It is pointless to bother trying. Tor besides being a bastion for criminals submitting a request to be arrested when authorities can be bothered to if you paint enough of a target on yourself or can lead them to an even bigger political win by busting your superiors.. Is totally worthless for what people claim they are ONLY using it for.

Actually moonbat the alphabet soup agencies as well as Alphabet the company are intensely interested in what EVERYONE navigates to. This is called big data and by monitoring it they can see how their manual and AI gambits are succeeding or failing. But as to the paranoia.. It only matters WHEN it matters and most of the time it doesn't. Concern sure.. everyone should be concerned but everyone should be concerned anyway because that helps you make good decisions. But super paranoia.. not so much. False sense of privacy or security or the expectation of privacy on a public network is just insanity.

Thing is.. I think PM User might be (or wants to become) a criminal and a pretty stupid one at that. Does it surprise me? Nope. But they should have known what kind of result would be when it comes to asking about the Pedophile Tor Network. So really this is a .. why didn't they search the forum issue.. I think if people search the forum and use their brains more we would have less potential criminal murderous druggie pedophiles asking how to use Tor.

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Re: Dark web tutorial

Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-04-16, 10:17

Polarised opinions about individuals and criminality aside, this isn't the right place to ask for something like this.
Pale Moon is a browser. It literally doesn't care what network you use or what you use it for as long as it is internet-compatible in its infrastructure and technology.
You can use any existing tutorial and just replace whatever other browser they use in that tutorial with Pale Moon.

If you want to know how to set up access to the darker side of the web or actually want to dive deep into things like freenet and following the white rabbit (and be exposed to a lot of things you probably in retrospect wish you hadn't) then that is best found on other fora than here.
Since this isn't a Pale moon support request and a controversial topic to begin with, I'm closing this thread.
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