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Sonic News Network website flickering in Pale Moon

Unread postby tor000 » Thu, 07 Dec 2017, 11:56

Hello:
Recently, I've noticed a problem, when I browsing Sonic News Network website in Pale Moon: It flickering like mad, and this preventing me browsing the website forcing me to use IE11 to browse it without problems:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRp-Xg3sTYQ
Why this is happening?
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Re: Sonic News Network website flickering in Pale Moon

Unread postby coffeebreak » Thu, 07 Dec 2017, 12:26

Not getting any flickering here. Could you post a link to the specific page used for your screencast example?
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Re: Sonic News Network website flickering in Pale Moon

Unread postby Night Wing » Thu, 07 Dec 2017, 12:27

I clicked on your link using 64n bit linux Pale Moon 27.6.2 running in 64 bit linux Mint 18.2 (Sonya) Xfce and I do not have any flickering at all and that includes scrolling all the way down the page to the bottom. I do not have an account there so I cannot log in.

The computer I'm using to access the site is an old 2010 desktop tower computer with a processor speed of 2.80 and it has 16 GB of memory. And I'm using the generic linux graphics display driver (xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Version 1:1.0.012-1build2) instead of my recommended linux Nvidia driver which would be Version (340.102). I've never had any problems on any site using the generic linux graphics driver so this is the reason why I've never installed the Nvidia driver for my very old Nvidia GT 220 graphics card.

What graphics card and driver for it are you using?
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Re: Sonic News Network website flickering in Pale Moon

Unread postby tor000 » Thu, 07 Dec 2017, 12:46

I forgot to say that this problem don't start immediately, but after a min or so. It happens in every page I visit in the website, after a min or so.
I'm using NVIDIA GeForce GT 220.
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Re: Sonic News Network website flickering in Pale Moon

Unread postby Moonchild » Thu, 07 Dec 2017, 13:25

Please include the output of help -> troubleshooting information (copy text to clipboard button)
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Re: Sonic News Network website flickering in Pale Moon

Unread postby Night Wing » Thu, 07 Dec 2017, 14:56

tor000 wrote:I forgot to say that this problem don't start immediately, but after a min or so. It happens in every page I visit in the website, after a min or so.
I'm using NVIDIA GeForce GT 220.


I was on Sonic News site for about 4 minutes and in all that time, there was no flickering and I clicked on some of the buttons there (Games, Media) when on the site. Result was no problems anywhere.
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Re: Sonic News Network website flickering in Pale Moon

Unread postby tor000 » Thu, 07 Dec 2017, 17:45

Moonchild wrote:Please include the output of help -> troubleshooting information (copy text to clipboard button)


Information of Pale Moon from my father computer (Not mine)(There problem occurred only for several seconds, and than dissapeared):

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Information from Pale Moon on my computer will be posted in the next weekend.
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Re: Sonic News Network website flickering in Pale Moon

Unread postby tor000 » Fri, 08 Dec 2017, 05:21

Update: The problem occurs also in Pale Moon at my father computer.
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Re: Sonic News Network website flickering in Pale Moon

Unread postby Moonchild » Fri, 08 Dec 2017, 12:39

I'm gathering you're having a compositor issue (especially on a 9800 GT, that's pretty old hardware) in DX11 mode. With the website using a full-page transparent area with their (cpu-intensive) "snow" animation triggering repaints constantly, I'm not really surprised it will flicker on that hardware.

Try the following:
In about:config, find layers.prefer-d3d9 and set it to "true", then restart the browser.
If no joy, try disabling hardware acceleration in Options -> advanced
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Re: Sonic News Network website flickering in Pale Moon

Unread postby tor000 » Sat, 09 Dec 2017, 19:03

Information from Pale Moon on my computer:

Code: Select all

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Build ID: 20171124063547
Update Channel: release
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Re: Sonic News Network website flickering in Pale Moon

Unread postby tor000 » Sat, 09 Dec 2017, 19:06

Moonchild wrote:I'm gathering you're having a compositor issue (especially on a 9800 GT, that's pretty old hardware) in DX11 mode. With the website using a full-page transparent area with their (cpu-intensive) "snow" animation triggering repaints constantly, I'm not really surprised it will flicker on that hardware.

Try the following:
In about:config, find layers.prefer-d3d9 and set it to "true", then restart the browser.
If no joy, try disabling hardware acceleration in Options -> advanced


The first option with the about:config, eliminated the website background (Which have the "snow" animation). This solved the problem.
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