problem with video

[Clodulf]

A strange bug happens in this page www.lemondemeilleur.com : I can watch neither the video on the top of this page EPISODE 3(PARTIE 1) nor the one in the middle EPISODE 2. I strangely can watch the video on the bottom EPISODE 1. Could you fix it, please ?

My computer works on Windows 10 2404 and my browser is the Palemoon 29.0.1.

[badnick]

Yea but you can watch the 2nd episode directly on Vimeo by clicking the "vimeo" button at the bottom-right.

[BenFenner]

Both of the videos you mentioned work fine for me here without having to go directly to Vimeo to watch them.

[gepus]

Tested with a fresh profile - only part 1 plays.
All 3 parts work if you disable: Preferences\Content\Video = Enable Media Source Extensions (MSE)
However this is only a temporary work around since disabling MSE can have a negative impact on other videos.

[badnick]

Episode 1 and 3 works for me, only 2 is not working.

[gepus]

Yea but you can watch the 2nd episode directly on Vimeo by clicking the "vimeo" button at the bottom-right.

Apart from part 1 videos won't play on Vimeo either. With MSE disabled as a work around, they play.
Please check if you're testing with default settings.

[badnick]

Strange: If I refresh the page, all (embeded) videos works for me, with the default settings (MSE enabled)

[Tomaso]

I actually noticed this problem earlier today too, with embedded Vimeo videos @ aeon.co:
https://aeon.co/videos/footage-from-hon ... t-protest/

The site has a note for Firefox users, telling them to change a setting in about:config, in order for the videos to play.
However, that info is irrelevant for Pale Moon, since it already has that setting configured accordingly by default.

The videos won't play at my end, even when trying to watch them directly @ vimeo.com:
https://vimeo.com/504381953/

They play just fine after disabling MSE though!

[rereser]

about the above video's:
with mse enabled, a connection is made to akamaized.net
block that, hit pause and play and both video's work.
same goes for the three video's in the first post at lemondemeilleur.com
with mse disabled, no connection to akamaized and no need for "pause / play".
https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/video needs akamaized.net to play video's however.

[Tomaso]

I think that the easiest workaround is to use JustOff's HTML5 Media Tuner extension:
https://github.com/JustOff/html5-video-tuner/releases/

After having installed it, simply visit https://vimeo.com/, click on the extension's icon, and select "HTML5".
This will allow embedded Vimeo videos to play anywhere too!

[badnick]

I actually noticed this problem earlier today too, with embedded Vimeo videos @ aeon.co:
https://aeon.co/videos/footage-from-hon ... t-protest/

The videos won't play at my end, even when trying to watch them directly @ vimeo.com:
https://vimeo.com/504381953/

They play just fine after disabling MSE though!

Both videos works for me if I refresh the page once or twice (MSE enabled)

[coffeebreak]

For me also, if MSE is disabled (or else HTML5 Media Tuner is set to HTML5) all three episodes play fine. Otherwise, only episode one plays.

This also works, for me at least, for the video posted here on the same issue.

[DayTripper]

disabling MSE can have a negative impact on other videos

What exactly would be affected by disabling MSE?

[New Tobin Paradigm]

Fallbacks from these shitty technologies are becoming far and few between.

[DayTripper]

Fallbacks from these shitty technologies are becoming far and few between.

So MSE should be disabled as the default?

[New Tobin Paradigm]

No ot shouldn't.

[DayTripper]

No ot shouldn't.

But if it is a problem for Vimeo and other video services like YouTube don't need it, then why is it needed?

[Moonchild]

MSE is needed for just about any streaming service. Youtube will likely restrict you to (very) low resolutions if not using MSE, for example.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

Yeah it will and even access to non-mse 720p is becoming more rare on the tubes. As well as sites and players dropping fallbacks as I said.

Btw, this was all predicted six years ago to be the case and the next step will be eme everywhere. So just resign yourself to the fact that ONLY Google sanctioned browsers will be allowed to have video eventually and there is nothing we can do to avoid it even if we renew DRM potental in the platform Google would use legal action to shut us down at any time they wished.

They certainly wouldn't approve a Widevine licence to a "Browser Toolbar" such as Pale Moon if they ever responded to the request at all.

[DayTripper]

My initial tests on YouTube and Vimeo with MSE disabled had no problems. But I have since noticed that some news sites are affected.

In the beginning, I suspected that the failure was due to JavaScript... when I first checked Vimeo I found that all of the videos on their own "demo" pages played ok, but not the videos that one might upload to an account. Then I read that basic account plans need to use their embedded player which loads using JavaScript. But Premium, Business and Pro accounts can directly link to their video on Vimeo using any HTML5 player. I haven't tested that aspect yet.

I notice that in Firefox there are no options for video, yet all videos play regardless. So assume that it is detecting and catering for the differences dynamically.

Is that something to consider for PM?