[28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby DarthVitrial » Mon, 20 Aug 2018, 21:41

Just the built-in Windows Defender in windows 10, no other security software.
Nothing about Pale Moon in Reliability Monitor or Event Viewer.

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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby DarthVitrial » Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 21:27

I'm wondering if it's an issue with Nvidia graphics. I switched to integrated Intel graphics for PM and haven't had any more hangs yet. Did get a few slowdowns but no full hangs.

EDIT: Scratch that...it's back to frequently locking up.
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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby DarthVitrial » Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 17:01

updated to 28.0.0.1 and also started with a fresh prefs.js. Still hanging.
Newest hang report from about 45 seconds ago: https://pastebin.com/10zZKksL
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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby satrow » Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 17:10

I've no idea of how to read the callstacks but I see 'C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes\Anti-Malware\mbae64.dll , Malwarebytes Corporation , Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit, Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit' loaded in all three snapshots.

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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby DarthVitrial » Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 17:13

Sorry if this comes off sounding a bit annoyed, but as I've said in all of my prior responses to you, I have already tried with Malwarebytes and all associated software fully uninstalled from my PC. It did not have any effect on the hangs. The hangs are unrelated to malwarebytes. I have already tested this. I reinstalled malwarebytes after confirming that it was unrelated, because the hangs happened with it fully deleted.

(also have another new hang report: https://pastebin.com/qYPA7DBZ)

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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby Moonchild » Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 17:15

Then why didn't you submit a hang report in the state where malwarebytes is -not- installed?
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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby DarthVitrial » Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 17:18

....Because I sometimes miss the obvious, I guess. Sorry.
Will do that now, hold on while I wait for it to hang again. Sometimes it takes a few minutes.

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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby DarthVitrial » Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 17:32

OK, browsed for a while and collected a few hang reports after ensuring malwarebytes was totally gone.
https://pastebin.com/vpj004VJ
https://pastebin.com/YzAzXzRz
https://pastebin.com/VkB30gcG

I can get more if you want, this was just from about five minutes of browsing, so I can browse for a few more minutes if you want additional ones.

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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby DarthVitrial » Mon, 03 Sep 2018, 19:28

Still present in 28.0.1.

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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby Moonchild » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 00:39

Please remove NoScript and see if that helps.
If not, restart the browser in Safe Mode and see if -that- helps.

Please report back with your findings.
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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby DarthVitrial » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 23:00

Will do. Is there an alternative to noscript that works with pale moon? I looked at umatrix but apparently that's not compatible.

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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby doofy » Wed, 05 Sep 2018, 23:33

DarthVitrial wrote:Will do. Is there an alternative to noscript that works with pale moon? I looked at umatrix but apparently that's not compatible.

uMatrix 1.1.4 works fine. If you can't find it anywhere else, it's on github somewhere.

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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby DarthVitrial » Thu, 06 Sep 2018, 17:27

I've been running without NoScript for a day or so (cleared cache, fully deleted NoScript, rebooted, etc), and it seems more stable? I'm getting occasional stutters but no full-on hangs yet.
EDIT: Spoke too soon. Hung when using the back button.
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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby 4td8s » Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 23:13

doofy wrote:
DarthVitrial wrote:Will do. Is there an alternative to noscript that works with pale moon? I looked at umatrix but apparently that's not compatible.

uMatrix 1.1.4 works fine. If you can't find it anywhere else, it's on github somewhere.


found it here though it's already an old version & the last one for PM as v1.1.6 & higher are webextension based

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Re: [28] Random hangs since upgrading to PM 28 x64

Unread postby gepus » Wed, 19 Sep 2018, 08:42

DarthVitrial wrote:I've been running without NoScript for a day or so (cleared cache, fully deleted NoScript, rebooted, etc), and it seems more stable? I'm getting occasional stutters but no full-on hangs yet.
EDIT: Spoke too soon. Hung when using the back button.

Did you try 28.0.1 with a fresh prefs.js?

As a side note, not related.
I see you are already using uBlock. uMatrix works fine alongside uBlock. So far no problem.
However even Gorhill doesn't use them both alongside anymore (he uses only uBlock) because he considers it to be a bit of stretch.
Just sayin', after all it's up the user to decide.


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