Does Pale Moon 27.7.1 have stability issues?

[RexyDallas]

It seems after I keep the browser open too long, it will eventually end up freezing constantly, and I have to restart the browser. Earlier, the browser fell to a crawl with CPU use in the 90s for seemingly no apparent reason, and stayed that way. The browser also crashed (visually Stopped responding, became ghosted, and the windows dialog for closing crashed programs came up) earlier today, with no crash report dialog. I have no clue what this could be, but it has only been happening recently. Flash is known by me to freeze browsers sometimes, though this happens even when plugin manager isn't currently running.

Using windows 8.1 update 1 64-bit.

The only potentially performance-heavy add-ons I have are Adblock Latitude 4.01, Adblock plus element hiding helper, grease-monkey for Pale Moon 3.30rc1, and stylish.

[Zero3K]

1. How much RAM was/is it using when it froze/freezes?
2. If it was using 3-4 GB, please consider switching to the 64-bit version if you're running the 32-bit one.

[SGvagon]

The problem with freezing Palemoon when flash is on website you can solve it with disabling OOP plugins. Here is how to do that https://www.fluxbytes.com/software-tips ... ainer-exe/ , second method.

[RexyDallas]

The problem with freezing Palemoon when flash is on website you can solve it with disabling OOP plugins. Here is how to do that https://www.fluxbytes.com/software-tips ... ainer-exe/ , second method.

Actually, I just realized the VLC plugin was causing the majority of the plugin-related freezes and lag. I always saw plugin hang messages mentioning the VLC plugin, but I largely just accepted them and went on with my day. Only recently did I stop to think that plugin could be detrimental to the speed of the browser.

The reason I never bothered to disable it or look into it before is because it doesn't really affect me too much. Freeze here, slowdown there, go on with my day. So I didn't really care enough to actually look into the speed issues.

The weird thing is that the VLC web plugin seems to make plugin container run almost constantly.

[Moonchild]

The problem with freezing Palemoon when flash is on website you can solve it with disabling OOP plugins. Here is how to do that https://www.fluxbytes.com/software-tips ... ainer-exe/ , second method.

That's actually a bad suggestion; if flash crashes in-process, it crashes the entire browser.
What you should always try first is disabling flash's own protective mode. In add-ons manager, plugins, there's an options button next to Flash (in 32-bit mode) allowing you to disable it.

[RexyDallas]

The problem with freezing Palemoon when flash is on website you can solve it with disabling OOP plugins. Here is how to do that https://www.fluxbytes.com/software-tips ... ainer-exe/ , second method.

That's actually a bad suggestion; if flash crashes in-process, it crashes the entire browser.
What you should always try first is disabling flash's own protective mode. In add-ons manager, plugins, there's an options button next to Flash (in 32-bit mode) allowing you to disable it.

If I recall correctly, Mozilla actually disabled that quite some time ago due to performance issues.

Also, why is the options button not available in 64-bit mode?

[Moonchild]

Pale Moon 64-bit uses a different type of plugin sandbox where this doesn't really apply.

[SGvagon]

Moonchild: No, if flash crash, it only show sad smile (or exclamation mark now - this http://dolske.net/blogimg/crashcat.png?w=240 ) instead of flash player/object. Browser works correctly after flash crash. I only refresh page and flash loads again.

[Moonchild]

Moonchild: No, if flash crash, it only show sad smile (or exclamation mark now - this http://dolske.net/blogimg/crashcat.png?w=240 ) instead of flash player/object. Browser works correctly after flash crash. I only refresh page and flash loads again.

If you disable the plugin container, then if flash crashes, it will crash Pale Moon. Unless, of course, Adobe finally fixed their "protected mode" and that is what you're seeing instead.

[back2themoon]

I'm getting unusual system freezes lately on my laptop (Intel HD Graphics 520), all while browsing with PM. Not pointing at PM yet as I'm still excluding several possible causes, I'll post again or start a new thread if required. Everything just freezes, no error messages or AppCrashView reports available. It mostly happens while on battery.

update: not Pale Moon related.