Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

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Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by SGvagon » 2017-07-06, 16:46

Hello,

I have another problem on Twitch, when I turn off all the Video modules in Options
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Twitch stream works perfectly on 60 FPS , but when I turn on these modules, Twitch stuckering and lagging on 30-35 FPS in theater mode.

BUT, when these modules turned off, I have max 720p quality on Youtube :? , without 60 FPS or 1080p option.

I tried Firefox, and there I haven't got any problem with Twitch or teatre mode.

What I must will do with this problem? Thank you in advance. I am using of course the latest Palemoon 27.3.0 32bit on Windows 7 PRO x64bit .

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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by badnick » 2017-07-06, 17:58

There is some problems with buffering on twitch but when is ok I can watch 720p/60 fps with no problems on HTML5 (with MSE for WebM video disabled)
On Youtube I can watch smoothly 1440p/60 fps with (same option disabled)
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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by SGvagon » 2017-07-06, 18:31

In teatre mode on twitch its still lagging on 35-40 FPS with WebM disabled. Skipped frames 255
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And in Firefox (only 6 skipped frames and stable 60 FPS)
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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by SGvagon » 2017-07-06, 18:54

Thank you for the information, I have notebook for 1 000 € (MSI GP62 6QF) and these streams lagging like on very cheap laptops. In FF, Chrome or IE I don't have these problems. So I must wait and maybe migrate to Firefox for awhile.

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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by Nigaikaze » 2017-07-06, 19:11

SGvagon wrote:So I must wait and maybe migrate to Firefox for awhile.
Or try the unstable version ...

http://www.palemoon.org/unstable/

... which already has the 27.4 media fixes in it.
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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by SGvagon » 2017-07-06, 19:27

Yes, unstable version works perfectly on 60 FPS :) . So when we can look forward to new stable Palemoon with these fix video/media modules?
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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by Nigaikaze » 2017-07-06, 19:48

SGvagon wrote:So when we can look forward to new stable Palemoon with these fix video/media modules?
Moonchild's answer to this is usually, "when it's ready." ;)

Shouldn't be too much longer, but I'm not aware of a specific release date so I honestly have no idea when that'll happen, other than "soon."
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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by badnick » 2017-07-06, 19:53

Here is a video capture from Twitch at 720p/60. When the video is maximized there is some lagging but this due to high cpu usage of both-video runing and video capture soft-Bandicam (wich run at 30 fps only)..If is runing only twitch there is no lagging for me.
https://streamable.com/ds9ak

And here is youtube at 1080p/60 fps:
http://imgur.com/a/VxtOZ
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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by SGvagon » 2017-07-06, 19:57

Ok so I switch from stable to unstable Palemoon now. Maybe actual version of Palemoon not optimized for Core i7 6700HQ Skylike , Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M .
On my older laptop with Core i5 3210M and GeForce 635M I have no lags on actual Palemoon (stable 60 FPS) .

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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by Sajadi » 2017-07-06, 20:43

The actual stable version simply lacks all the MSE-MP4 fixes which the unstable is having right now. That is the source of the problems for the stable version.

But beware.. While MSE-MP4 is more or less fixed now in the unstable, the MSE-WebM variant is still rather broken and more work has to be done to make it working as good as MSE-MP4 ;)

So best, keep MSE-WebM deactivated until further notice from the development team - or only activate it when no other chance left ;)

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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by SGvagon » 2017-07-06, 20:52

On screenshot above I had allow WebM, because stable Palemoon hanging and crashing for me. Now in unstable I WebM disallow and I haven't got any hang or crash yet.

Btw. in ustable version I have better results than Firefox
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Only 3 skipped frames :) .
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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by Sajadi » 2017-07-06, 20:54

As said, MSE-MP4 is more or less fixed and repaired.

But MSE-WebM is still far away from that.

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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by SGvagon » 2017-07-08, 15:56

Hm I have instant CPU leak (50+ % ) using :? on Twitch streams with Palemoon Unstable. I know, its unstable, but working on Twitch better than stable version.

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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by Moonchild » 2017-07-08, 16:58

http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml
http://www.palemoon.org/knownissues.shtml

Not sure how many times you want to discuss known issues on the forum, but it's really kind of redundant.
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Re: Twitch without Video modules works better in teatre mode, but Youtube not

Unread post by SGvagon » 2017-07-08, 17:47

I know, sorry. But I was confused, that Twitch streams works better on cheaper Lenovo laptop than expensiver MSI gaming laptop with default browser options (both Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU) .

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