Crash with PM 27.1.2 Topic is solved
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theJman
Crash with PM 27.1.2
Although I'm using PM 27.1.2 this issue is not related to 27.x as it's happened to me on several occasions over the past 2 years. This time I was able to snag an app crash report, so I figured posting that might be of some benefit. My system is a Dell E6440 laptop running x86 Win7 Enterprise, fully patched.
Unfortunately I can't duplicate the issue at will, but I do get a visual indication when PM is about to crash that's the exact same each time. It manifests itself with the tabs suddenly losing all distinction; no borders, icons, color, etc. The text is still visible - barely, as the font becomes grainy and pixelated - but the borders are simply gone. If I keep browsing within a few minutes after that happens PM crashes.
Here is the info I snagged from the app crash window. Hopefully it provides some insight...
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Palemoon.exe
Application Version: 27.1.2.6270
Application Timestamp: 58b82d28
Fault Module Name: d2d1.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.2.9200.16765
Fault Module Timestamp: 528bf6b2
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0022544b
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.4
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Unfortunately I can't duplicate the issue at will, but I do get a visual indication when PM is about to crash that's the exact same each time. It manifests itself with the tabs suddenly losing all distinction; no borders, icons, color, etc. The text is still visible - barely, as the font becomes grainy and pixelated - but the borders are simply gone. If I keep browsing within a few minutes after that happens PM crashes.
Here is the info I snagged from the app crash window. Hopefully it provides some insight...
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Palemoon.exe
Application Version: 27.1.2.6270
Application Timestamp: 58b82d28
Fault Module Name: d2d1.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.2.9200.16765
Fault Module Timestamp: 528bf6b2
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0022544b
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.4
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
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theJman
Re: Crash with PM 27.1.2
Extensions are Pale Moon Commander, Private Tab, uBlock Origin and Yahoo Mail Hide Panel. Theme is PMChrome. Plugins active are Flash, Java, Foxit Reader and 3 for VMware; Client Support, Remote Console and Client Integration, and Remote Console. All other plugins are not active. Everything is up to date.
The issue happened again this morning, so I grabbed an image of what the tabs look like...

If I keep browsing after the tabs fade within a few minutes PM will crash.
AppCrashView is as follows...
The issue happened again this morning, so I grabbed an image of what the tabs look like...

If I keep browsing after the tabs fade within a few minutes PM will crash.
AppCrashView is as follows...
Re: Crash with PM 27.1.2
The crash is in a dll that is part of the windows DirectX system (so by definition something that is out of our hands since it's not our code). This means that it's extremely likely your video driver is at fault.
Please include the Help -> Troubleshooting information and other relevant data as outlined in the post dark_moon pointed to. We need that info.
Please include the Help -> Troubleshooting information and other relevant data as outlined in the post dark_moon pointed to. We need that info.
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theJman
Re: Crash with PM 27.1.2
I'll check for a newer version of my video driver. In the mean time, here is the Help/Troubleshooting Information...
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Re: Crash with PM 27.1.2
Intel HD Graphics.. Is this 64bit or 32bit Pale Moon.. If it is 64bit try 32bit Pale Moon.
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theJman
Re: Crash with PM 27.1.2
It's x86 Win7 Enterprise, so 32 bit. Dell had a minor point release video driver update - only numeric change was after the 3rd decimal point - so probably not significant, but I installed it anyway.
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theJman
Re: Crash with PM 27.1.2
This is still happening - about once a week now - and that's using version 27.3 now. Extensions are all up to date. Here is the latest info from AppCrashView...
And the Troubleshooting Information...
Re: Crash with PM 27.1.2
Even with the driver update the crash is still occurring in the DirectX back-end, so there's very little that can be done about it on the browser side apart from disabling certain parts of hardware acceleration.
Please go into about:config, and try setting the following preferences to work around the driver's instability. Make sure to exit and restart after you've made each change (test each setting one at a time), and kindly let us know which setting fixes your crashes (so they can potentially be added to the blocklist, helping all other users with your hardware):
Please go into about:config, and try setting the following preferences to work around the driver's instability. Make sure to exit and restart after you've made each change (test each setting one at a time), and kindly let us know which setting fixes your crashes (so they can potentially be added to the blocklist, helping all other users with your hardware):
- Set gfx.direct2d.use1_1 to false and see if this fixes your problem.
- Set gfx.direct2d.disabled to true and see if this fixes your problem.
- Set layers.acceleration.disabled to true and see if this fixes your problem.
- If still no joy, go into Options -> advanced, tab "general" and untick the box next to "Use hardware acceleration when available"
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theJman
Re: Crash with PM 27.1.2
I don't know the driver is inherently unstable - as the issue doesn't occur with any other application or browser - but I'll try each of those settings one at a time and see if any of them have a material impact. Might be a while before I report back though as I have to either wait for a crash or feel comfortable the setting change is preventing one.
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theJman
Re: Crash with PM 27.1.2
This option didn't do the trick - it happened again - so I'll try #2 now.Moonchild wrote:
- Set gfx.direct2d.use1_1 to false and see if this fixes your problem.

