Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

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Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby pmBill » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:49 am

When I upgraded to 27.1.? or thereabouts, sound stopped auto-playing in Pale Moon.
It could be a Windows 10 issue, since I haven't tried it since I got my new computer.

It always worked before (Win 7), and still works in most recent Firefox, Opera, & Google Chrome.
(and MS Edge -- is that the new Internet Explorer?)

This is the code: (I've used it for years now)

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<embed src="success.wav"
   autostart="true" loop="false" hidden="true" height=1 width=1 name="audioembed1" id="audioembed1">
<noembed>
<bgsound src="success.wav" loop=1 height=1 width=1 name="audiobgsound1" id="audiobgsound1">
</noembed>


Here is one of the sites where it doesn't work.

http://www.behold-the-rage.com/

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby pmBill » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:11 pm

Hello??

(why does a message need at least 15 characters?)

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby half-moon » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:09 pm

Sound works fine for me in Pale Moon.

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby Tomaso » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:04 pm

pmBill wrote:Here is one of the sites where it doesn't work.

http://www.behold-the-rage.com/

Confirmed.
SeaMonkey plays a sound after loading that page, but Pale Moon doesn't.
For me, it doesn't work with older Pale Moon versions either.
Intentionally perhaps?

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby Nigaikaze » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:09 pm

Tomaso wrote:
pmBill wrote:Here is one of the sites where it doesn't work.

http://www.behold-the-rage.com/

Confirmed.
SeaMonkey plays a sound after loading that page, but Pale Moon doesn't.
For me, it doesn't work with older Pale Moon versions either.

Interestingly enough, the sound does play for me on that page in Pale Moon. PM 27.2.0 x64 on Linux Mint 17.3.

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby Moonchild » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:12 pm

<embed> requires a plugin to work. So perhaps you had a media player plugin installed previously that would accept "wav" as source (vlc or quicktime perhaps?)
<bgsound> is a proprietary MSIE tag.

What you want is <audio>
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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby Tomaso » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:25 pm

Moonchild wrote:perhaps you had a media player plugin installed previously that would accept "wav" as source

I've got the same plugins installed in both SeaMonkey and Pale Moon, which only are Flash and Silverlight.
The sound plays in SeaMonkey, but not in Pale Moon.

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Moonchild wrote:<audio>

Yeah, at least, PM plays that horse.ogg file just fine! :)

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby pmBill » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:28 pm

I did a lot of research back in the day, pre-HTML 5, and this was the way to do it for cross-browser compatibility.
bgsound is for Internet Explorer.
My plugins for Firefox and Pale Moon are the same.

It's pretty odd that it plays for every other major browser and not Pale Moon.

And I KNOW it works in Windows 7.

(and apparently one instance of *nix as someone mentioned above)

Going through and changing ALL of my references to the HTML 5 audio tag would be a HUGE pain in the ass.
(and WAV is not supported in IE, although I suppose I would just use the bgsound)

And the audio tag is not supported 'browser-globally' until 'recently', which is why I didn't use it.

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby pmBill » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:30 pm

half-moon wrote:Sound works fine for me in Pale Moon.


What OS??

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby Tomaso » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:03 pm

The problem is not limited to Win10, because I'm running Win8.1Pro,x64.

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby half-moon » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:40 pm

pmBill wrote:
half-moon wrote:Sound works fine for me in Pale Moon.


What OS??


I can play sound on Windows 7 just fine. Does sound not work for you at all, or just on a specific website?

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby pmBill » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:04 pm

Just where I use this code, which is on many pages on several websites.
My Pale Moon also works on my laptop in Windows 7.

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby pmBill » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:09 pm

JustOff wrote:https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon/pull/974 should fix this problem.


Does that mean it might work in the next release of PM?

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby JustOff » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:38 pm

pmBill wrote:Does that mean it might work in the next release of PM?

I hope so. You can test this on {{LINK REMOVED}}

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby Tomaso » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:13 pm

JustOff wrote:You can test this on {{LINK REMOVED}}.

Sorry, but it still doesn't work.

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby JustOff » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:39 pm

Tomaso wrote:Sorry, but it still doesn't work.

Hmm, it works for me. Could someone else check this? pmBill?

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby pmBill » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:47 pm

How is this going to affect my Pale Moon browser?

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby Tomaso » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:57 am

pmBill wrote:How is this going to affect my Pale Moon browser?

The version that JustOff linked to is a portable build.
Just extract it and launch Palemoon-Portable.exe.
It will run independently, without interfering with your installed version.

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Re: Sound not working in 27.1.2 (Windows 10?)

Postby New Tobin Paradigm » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:05 am

JustOff, why are you posting unauthorized private builds on the forum where anyone can get at them and using GitHub as your own personal public dropbox?
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