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Forum logs me out all the time

Post by Joskapista » 2015-12-04, 13:29

Using this forum is a pain. Despite I always check the checkbox "log me in automatically on each visit" I'm always logged out. When I log in I get redirected to the board index so if I searched for something, it goes away. Searching in another tab doesn't help, becouse I can be logged only in one tab. I refresh the other tab - I'm logged out. I open a topic in a new tab - I'm logged out.
It's only on this forum. I have a very lenient cookie policy and this forum is whitelisted in my Adblock and Noscript.

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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by Moonchild » 2015-12-04, 17:32

Can you please post the output of Help -> Troubleshooting information (as text)?
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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by x-15a2 » 2015-12-04, 17:52

I visit these forums multiple times daily from multiple environment and I never (very rarely) need to login. I say this to emphasis that the forum software is working as designed and is correctly configured.
As I'm sure you've read many times here, the best approach is to create a new\clean user profile and see if the symptoms change at all (I'm assuming that you are visiting the forums using some version of Pale Moon). If the symptoms go away when using the new profile, you'll need to determine which settings and\or add-ons are the root of the issue.

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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by Joskapista » 2015-12-04, 22:46

Here is the troubleshooting information. Meanwhile I noticed that RequestPolicy was blocking googlesyndication.com, could that have any effect on the sites behavior?

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Application Basics
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Name: Pale Moon
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Enabled: true
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Last edited by New Tobin Paradigm on 2015-12-04, 23:22, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by Gary5 » 2015-12-05, 00:20

You've got a lot of extensions that could cause that depending on their settings. I think the most obvious suspects are RequestPolicy, CookieKeeper, RefControl, NoScript, Blender, and anonymoX. You can try things like test with a clean profile that has no extensions and default everything, test after restarting with add-ons disabled, disable suspect add-ons one by one.

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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by dark_moon » 2015-12-05, 21:52

I use RequestPolicy, RefControl and NoScript too and have these problems sometimes too.

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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by Moonchild » 2015-12-06, 23:21

I think it's a direct clash between your blocking/privacy extensions and the necessary security measures in place here to prevent user's logged-in sessions getting hijacked.
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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by half-moon » 2015-12-07, 11:55

I have atleast 6 privacy/security addons, and I don't have this issue.

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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by Joskapista » 2015-12-07, 12:30

Gary5 wrote:You've got a lot of extensions that could cause that depending on their settings. I think the most obvious suspects are RequestPolicy, CookieKeeper, RefControl, NoScript, Blender, and anonymoX. You can try things like test with a clean profile that has no extensions and default everything, test after restarting with add-ons disabled, disable suspect add-ons one by one.
I will try what you recommended. It doesn't seem to be a very simple problem though becouse RequestPolicy, Noscript and Adblock are set to block nothing here, RefControl is set to show actual referrer (it doesn't metter really, becouse I usually visit the forum by typing the URL, on a blank page), the forum's cookies are protected in CookieKeeper, and anonymoX is disabled, I only enable it when proxies are necessery, becouse the free version is slow and annoying. I don't understand how Blender could couse problems, but I could try disabling it. Doesn't seem to make much difference in my browsers uniqueness anyway.
Moonchild wrote:I think it's a direct clash between your blocking/privacy extensions and the necessary security measures in place here to prevent user's logged-in sessions getting hijacked.
Could you elaborate it please?

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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by megaman » 2015-12-07, 15:55

half-moon wrote:I have atleast 6 privacy/security addons, and I don't have this issue.
Yes, but not everyone uses the same add-ons and use the same settings.
We have to find-out what settings, with add-ons, his antivirus, or even his Palemoon settings that have him being logged-out.

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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by satrow » 2015-12-08, 16:57

Check that you haven't modified the default setting for canvas.poisondata in about:config, if you have, it will be marked in bold and it will cause you to login on each visit. Double-click the line to set it back to default.

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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by Moonchild » 2015-12-08, 23:52

satrow wrote:Check that you haven't modified the default setting for canvas.poisondata in about:config, if you have, it will be marked in bold and it will cause you to login on each visit. Double-click the line to set it back to default.
Really? :wtf:
That makes no sense, Satrow. All it does is affect reading data from a canvas.

EDIT: also, confirmed it indeed doesn't affect logged-in state.
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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by satrow » 2015-12-08, 23:53

It might not make any sense but since I reset it to default - no more relogging into the forum has been necessary...

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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by Moonchild » 2015-12-08, 23:55

satrow wrote:It might not make any sense but since I reset it to default - no more relogging into the forum has been necessary...
I just tested it -- no issues.
Seriously, it doesn't make any sense that that would influence a forum login. The code doesn't touch anything but toDataURL() and getImageData() methods to get data from a canvas drawing area.
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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by satrow » 2015-12-09, 00:06

I only had the login issue after I turned it on, weeks ago; I turned it off today, no other changes, 3x I've restarted PM and not had to relog. Possibly something coincidental but other than a bugged profile, I don't know what it could have been (or why a bugged profile would be 'fixed' by switching that setting to default).

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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by Moonchild » 2015-12-09, 00:25

Well, just for the sake of it I'll leave it enabled and see if there are any issues or not...
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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by Joskapista » 2015-12-18, 02:36

This is rather strange: I disabled every privacy add-ons I could think about that may couse this problem, and finally I stayed logged in. Then I started reenabling them one by one to see wich coused the problem, and this time I couldn't reproduce the error. I reenabled all of them and I didn't get logged out. Of wich I'm happy on one hand, becouse problem solved - for now, but since I couldn't find out what coused me to not stay logged in, this problem could return anytime.

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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by Thehandyman1957 » 2015-12-18, 05:01

Gary5 wrote:You've got a lot of extensions that could cause that depending on their settings. I think the most obvious suspects are RequestPolicy, CookieKeeper, RefControl, NoScript, Blender, and anonymoX. You can try things like test with a clean profile that has no extensions and default everything, test after restarting with add-ons disabled, disable suspect add-ons one by one.
As an advid paid Anonymox user and have used it for over two years now and can say without a doubt that there isn't any setting in that add on that would cause that problem. Just in case you were wondering. :ugeek:

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Re: Forum logs me out all the time

Post by Moonchild » 2015-12-19, 12:02

if your IP changes regularly (e.g. through anonymoX) then you may be logged out by the forum. So, it's not entirely without risk ;)
We also validate referrers, so if you are too restrictive in blocking/mangling them, you may also be logged out or be unable to post.
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