Why are threads getting locked all the time?

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Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by jb_wisemo » 2022-05-18, 05:22

I see a lot of threads being locked, not just ones I have been involved in.

Is there some rule that threads are locked after a certain time or some other strange reason that threads are locked with no explicit explanation at the bottom of each locked thread?

Most notably the following old thread by Moonchild himself about when to lock threads has been locked for no apparent reason, despite stating that "We'll be leaving this thread open": viewtopic.php?f=17&t=12697

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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by moonbat » 2022-05-18, 06:08

Old threads get automatically locked, and the ones that were queries can be marked as solved by the poster, after which (I think) they also get locked.
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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by back2themoon » 2022-05-18, 08:28

moonbat wrote:
2022-05-18, 06:08
Old threads get automatically locked.
There's one problem with this. Some extension authors, create threads as their "official support thread" for that extension. When these get locked, it's impossible to ask a question or continue discussion about that extension.

Perhaps these could be made "unlockable", unless a replacement/fork exists or the author has abandoned the extension? Even so, further discussion should be possible, even after prolonged inactivity.

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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by Lucio Chiappetti » 2022-05-18, 08:35

For support threads, one might think to open a new one say every year, putting the year in the title (e.g "Pinco Panco Extension [2022]"). I've seen this practice on other forums though for different purposes.
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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by back2themoon » 2022-05-18, 08:39

Yes, that looks awful though and potentially useful older information will be scattered over locked threads about the same subject.

Hopefully, it shouldn't require too much work to mark certain threads as "official", "support thread" or whatever.

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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by moonbat » 2022-05-18, 08:46

back2themoon wrote:
2022-05-18, 08:28
Some extension authors, create threads as their "official support thread" for that extension. When these get locked, it's impossible to ask a question or continue discussion about that extension.
Tell me about it :(
All my extensions have a corresponding support thread here, the support URL on their page points to it. Since they are all well mature at this point, I've been unable to update the threads if I release a new version with a minor fix/change after several months.
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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by FranklinDM » 2022-05-18, 09:49

moonbat wrote:
2022-05-18, 08:46
I've been unable to update the threads if I release a new version with a minor fix/change after several months.
For support topics under the Add-ons board, you can request me or one of the other moderators to re-open it if it was closed due to inactivity. With that said, I've unlocked all the support topics for your add-ons.

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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by moonbat » 2022-05-18, 11:04

FranklinDM wrote:
2022-05-18, 09:49
With that said, I've unlocked all the support topics for your add-ons.
Thank you! :thumbup:
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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-05-18, 13:47

If this causes too many issues, I can change the policy here and no longer auto-lock.
be aware that just unlocking a thread will have it re-lock in the next scheduled "locking window" because it is based on latest activity/latest post.
The problem is that in the past having all open threads would cause people to necro-post and (re)start discussions about topics that were completely irrelevant to the state of Pale Moon today.
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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by back2themoon » 2022-05-18, 17:58

My suggestion: in the Add-ons Forum, create a special "Extension support" sub-section with no auto-lock policy. Only "official" support would go there i.e. topics exclusively created by extension authors. It'd be easier to control, and you won't have to disable auto-lock for the entire forum if you don't want to (personally, I prefer necro-posting to locked/multiple threads but that's just me).

If this sounds good, I'd be happy to go over all extensions currently in the Add-ons Site (unless there's a quicker, internal way to find them) and report those that link to a support thread in the forum, so they can be moved in that section and unlocked, if required.

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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by Nuck-TH » 2022-05-18, 19:54

I second that. When i published my fork of FLST i wanted to suggest that release/support threads should be moved to dedicated subforum to not mix with general extension questions and question about specific legacy extensions.
Also may i suggest that same(dedicated subforum) to be done with threads about extension development? I'd make easier looking if development question was already discussed/answered.

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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by TheRealMaestro » 2022-05-19, 18:44

Is this why the choice to edit past posts disappears soon after posting? Sometimes, I can spot a mistake I have made in one of my recent posts, but it is too late for me to amend it with the right information. I do not like leaving the false information up, but am powerless to right it.
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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by back2themoon » 2022-05-19, 18:57

Auto-locking threads and time window to edit posts sound totally unrelated.

I assume you cannot edit forever, to avoid transforming messages at will, at any time. Even after others have posted. Makes sense. You should really verify your posts before and/or right after posting!

In case of a rare, clamorous past error, you can always quote yourself and correct it.

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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-05-19, 19:53

I've created a sub board under Add-ons that has no auto-lock policy with appropriate rules for creating new topics.
back2themoon wrote:
2022-05-18, 17:58
I'd be happy to go over all extensions currently in the Add-ons Site (unless there's a quicker, internal way to find them) and report those that link to a support thread in the forum, so they can be moved in that section and unlocked, if required.
That would be extremely helpful. Thank you!
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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by back2themoon » 2022-05-19, 20:48

Here's the first batch:

AutoPageColor - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=26812
Compact Moon Options - links to 'Various' thread - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Cozy Bookmarks Toolbar - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=26839
Download Manager Customizations - bit unusual: https://repo.palemoon.org/uyar/download ... ons/issues
FLFT - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=26905
GetEmAll! - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=26577
Minama - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=26550
MozArchiver - viewtopic.php?f=50&t=11022
Noia Moon Options - links to 'Various' thread - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Restore Tabs Button - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=26569
Splashed! - viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16042
Stylem - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=19443
Swarth - viewtopic.php?p=218827
Theme Tweaker - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=18000
Title Bar Customizer - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=26555
Toolbox Plus - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=26620

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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by back2themoon » 2022-05-19, 21:27

This completes the extensions (Themes to follow):

Add As Search Engine - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=26590
Ambassador - dedicated subforum - viewforum.php?f=64
BrowserTickTock - https://repo.palemoon.org/jobbautista9/ ... ock/issues
Double-click Tweaks - https://repo.palemoon.org/uyar/double-c ... aks/issues
Extension Developer - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=26625
HTTPS Enforcer - https://repo.palemoon.org/uyar/https-enforcer/issues
Integrated Authentication for SeaMonkey and Pale Moon - viewtopic.php?f=50&t=14759
JSView Revive - viewtopic.php?f=50&t=14792
PMPlayer - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=24400
Pale Moon Commander - viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16081
PermissionsPlus - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=24665
Pure URL - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=22828
RecordRewind - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=24909
Restart manager - viewtopic.php?t=22471
Sidebar Feed Reader - https://repo.palemoon.org/uyar/sidebar- ... der/issues
Simple Screenshot - https://repo.palemoon.org/uyar/simple-screenshot/issues
TextFX - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=25041
The Good 'ol Sidebar - viewtopic.php?f=46&p=122332
URL Clipper - https://repo.palemoon.org/uyar/url-clipper/issues
Website Navigation Bar - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=26767

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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-05-19, 21:38

back2themoon wrote:
2022-05-19, 21:27
This completes the extensions (Themes to follow)
Thanks!

I've split the stuff for themes out into their own sub board, just to keep things organized.

EDIT: extensions moved across and threads unlocked.
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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by back2themoon » 2022-05-19, 21:38

Themes (many of these, link to the same 'Various' thread ending in 7674):

Aeromoon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Australium - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=8735
Camimoon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=9355
Compact Moon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Dark Moon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=10134
DarkPitch - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Fox 2 The Moon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Kempelton Reloaded - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=4513
LittleMoon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
MacMoon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=8565
Material Moon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=14631
Maxi3 - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Maxi4 - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
MicroMoon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Milestone 10 - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=23201
Modoki Moon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=8950
Moonfox3 - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Moonola - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Moonscape - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=14492
Nauticalia - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Noia Moon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Opresto - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
PMChrome - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
PMOpera - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Past Modern Revisited - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=8151
Phoenity Rebirth - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=10301
Photonic - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=21447
Qute 4 PM - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Qute Large - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Qute Legacy - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
reinheit - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Stratum - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=14861
Tangerinemoon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Tangomoon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Walnutty - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
White Moon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674
Winstripe Moon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=14641
XMoon - viewtopic.php?f=45&t=7674

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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by vannilla » 2022-05-19, 21:51

If possible I'd like for the eMatrix thread to also be moved: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=21561
Thank you.

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Re: Why are threads getting locked all the time?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-05-19, 21:55

vannilla wrote:
2022-05-19, 21:51
If possible I'd like for the eMatrix thread to also be moved: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=21561
Thank you.
Done!

I'll get to the themes later.
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