Privacy Badger v1.0 incompatible

[Skrell]

Apparently the latest update to Privacy Badger has broken compatibility with Palemoon. The main issue is no button showing up in the toolbar, if anyone has a quick fix for this please post it. In the meantime the issue has been reported to the authors.

[LimboSlam]

I have just referenced this issue with some other issues and fixes which were used in making Ublock and Umatrix compatible (supporting Firefox pre-australis/palemoon specific icon bug) with us. So maybe this could be the solution here? Now I'm not a dev or very good in coding/programing so my info may be wrong here.

[Skrell]

I don't' follow what you're saying ?

[LimboSlam]

On GitHub I have reference this issue with Ublocks past issue (worked on and fixed by AlexVallat for his version of Ublock; Gorhill then imported this fix to Ublock Origin and UMatrix), this was the missing icon in Pale Moon specifically because of them not being able to support Pale Moon officially, a.k.a Firefox pre-australis. So by doing this hopefully someone will know how to patch this using AlexVallat work, which can be found here: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/compare/master...AlexVallat:gorhil-master

The only thing I'm unsure of is, if this is like stealing someones work without permission? I mean is ok to reference others patches/works to someone else's issue to help them out?

[Moonchild]

The only thing I'm unsure of is, if this is like stealing someones work without permission? I mean is ok to reference others patches/works to someone else's issue to help them out?

This is the whole idea behind Open Source Working together to improve code quality!

Although if you do take considerable amounts of code as-is, then you should mention the original author of the code and where the code originated from.

[LimboSlam]

Thanks MC, you answered my question. Also, they have added the tags "enhancement" and "2.0 milestone" for the version to the issue, but no reply yet. So I'm hoping this is an yes.

Link: https://github.com/EFForg/privacybadgerfirefox/issues/479

[John connor]

So when will this be fixed? Is it being fixed? I don't know all the ins and outs with Github terminology. I downloaded the zip thinking perhaps there was a fix, but looks like you have to pack the files into an XPI? I have no idea.

[LimboSlam]

Hey it's alright, I don't either.

I believe it will be fixed in their next stable release, but actively working on it, I don't know? If you want you can look at the latest commits and it will tell you exactly what they have added and removed recently, if I'm correct. I'm actually testing it out with PB v2.6.1 on Pale Moon v26.0.0pb1 (Goanna) and everything is working out. Only problem I had was keeping it at that version without automatic update's going through, which is weird because I have it disabled. I had to disable add-on compatibility checks in about:config for it to even work. Could that be bug it this new release of Pale Moon? Maybe it is, because I also have trouble with AMO downloading add-ons without showing the sign "Pale Moon prevented this website from downloading this add-on (addons.mozilla.org)"

Anyways, how would I stop an automatic update for this certain add-on or the nag pop-up on the side saying "Available update 1." I also have the XPI file but I don't know how to upload it here and would it be ok to if did??

Link: https://github.com/EFForg/privacybadgerfirefox and click "latest commits." or "commits." https://github.com/EFForg/privacybadgerfirefox/commits/master

[LimboSlam]

Privacy Badger v2.6.1 XPI (previous version):

jid1-MnnxcxisBPnSXQ@jetpack.xpi

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**Considering what was mention in this conversation: https://github.com/EFForg/privacybadger ... -154750511, someone else will have to fork it and maintain it as @cooperq has decided to adopt the WebExtension API once it's stable, which means the Jetpack API will be discontinued for Privacy Badger.**
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NOTE: for this to be installed properly, please uncheck automatic add-on updates (to keep it from updating to v1.8.1) and then get the add-on called, "Disable Add-on Compatibility Checks" for it to be compatible (enabled) with Pale Moon, this will be temporarily until they fix our issue (missing icon in v1.0+) in their 2.0 milestone release.

NOTE: it may give you issues if you have customized your adblocker settings to block trackers as well, so under "Privacy" and "Social" I would leave unticked, and maybe "Malware Domain." Though I don't think it would effect anything if enable, but it's up to you.

NOTE: this version (v2.6.1) doesn't prevent/include the super-cookie and fingerprinting detection that shipped with Privacy Badger v1.0+ stable.

LINK: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/checkcompatibility/?src=ss

[John connor]

Is that XPI for Goanna or is that the previous version of Privacy Badger before the update?

[LimboSlam]

Its the previous version.

[moon convert]

Thanks for posting a link to the compatible version. I found an article about privacy badger on the electronic frontier foundation's website, and have been experimenting with the latest version in my Firefox. The latest privacy badger version, 1.0 .1 seems to be a lot more powerful. The good news is, that developer already helped us out with one pale moon specific add-on, "encrypt the web", so that's probably a good sign for this one.

[LimboSlam]

I'm glad I could help.

Yup, now lets see how this turns out, meaning are they going to add support for us or are we going to have to fork it our self's. And WOW! 31 downloads!!!

[Skrell]

Its the previous version.

so it doesn't have super-cookies detection correct?

[LimboSlam]

Yes that is correct, until our issue is fixed in the next 2.0 milestone, we are sadly stuck with their beta one. I tried my best to get things moving, but with their new release and all, you know how it is.

[CharmCityCrab]

Does this Privacy Badger extension do anything for people who are already running Ad-Block Latitude? I note that they are blacklisting third-party processes that run across different sites and track you. Sounds like we're talking about advertising companies like Double Click that would be blacklisted by ABL already, especially if you are using filter lists like Easy Privacy, Adware filters, Privacy, Social, etc..

Is there a use case for someone already using ABL where PB would be blocking something that ABL doesn't?

Off the top of my head, I'm thinking that maybe with Firefox for Android where only one filter list is allowed on Ad-Block Plus, this extension may fill some gaps if it's available for that platform [EDIT: Just checked, it isn't available]. But I'm not sure where it would come into play with a desktop browser like Pale Moon with ad-block software that allows multiple filter lists.

Am I missing something? I'm not being sarcastic at all, that last sentence is exactly why I'm posting- to figure out if I'm missing something. I'm a non-technical user and sometimes miss specific differentiating features because I am just reading the dumbed-down broad descriptions for things on Wikipedia or the like that I feel I will understand. If this has some benefits that ABL doesn't cover, maybe I'll run both once they restore Pale Moon compatibility.

[LimboSlam]

In a sentence or two, Privacy Badger uses a smart algorism (if it suspects the same tracker is following you across multiple websites, then it will spring into action telling the browser not to load anymore content from that source) to detect and block third-party trackers (tracking ads/banners and other elements) that don't follow the DNT header your browser sends out.

If this has some benefits that ABL doesn't cover, maybe I'll run both once they restore Pale Moon compatibility.

Yes, Privacy Badger blocks ads (actually third-party ads) as if I'm using a typical adblocker, the difference is that it intelligently knows what's not ok and what's exceptionable as a third-party ad. I use this so I don't mistakenly block other people's salary, if you know what I mean. Though this can also be done by just subscribing to "Easy Privacy, "Fanboy's Enhance Tracking List," and either of the "Malware Domain List" in ABL or Ublock Origin. Just minus the smart algorism part of it.


So I guess this is the difference and I hope I've answered your question, if not, hear are some helpful links:
https://www.eff.org/privacybadger
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/block-online-tracking-privacy-badger/
http://http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/08/10/ad-blocking-software-will-cost-the-ad-industry-22-billion-this-year/#

[freefrog]

Ok, just one quick question: Does the actual version work? Just that it dont show the icon?

[CharmCityCrab]

In a sentence or two, Privacy Badger uses a smart algorism (if it suspects the same tracker is following you across multiple websites, then it will spring into action telling the browser not to load anymore content from that source) to detect and block third-party trackers

Ah, so it sounds like it might catch some things that ABL doesn't here and there, because of it's ability to detect based on behavior and not just a blacklist (And miss some things ABL catches by design- because PB is not trying to block ads, it just blocks trackers, which are sometimes ads and sometimes not ads- which don't respect the DNT flag). So PB might be worth installing even for someone who already has ABL- once PB Is compatible with PM again and on the PM add-on page. Thanks. I think I understand now.

[LimboSlam]

Ah, so it sounds like it might catch some things that ABL doesn't here and there, because of it's ability to detect based on behavior and not just a blacklist (And miss some things ABL catches by design- because PB is not trying to block ads, it just blocks trackers, which are sometimes ads and sometimes not ads- which don't respect the DNT flag). So PB might be worth installing even for someone who already has ABL- once PB Is compatible with PM again and on the PM add-on page. Thanks. I think I understand now.

Yes that is correct. Just note, it may give you issues if you have customized your adblocker settings to block trackers as well, so under "Privacy" and "Social" I would leave unticked, and maybe "Malware Domain." Though I don't think it would effect anything if enable, but it's up to you.

Ok, just one quick question: Does the actual version work? Just that it dont show the icon?

Yes, the previous version does (v2.6.1), this is the most compatible version available for us right now, that is until they fix our issue (missing icon in v1.0+) in the next 2.0 milestone.